NVIDIA Ampere rumored to get four times more Ray-Tracing perf, no more GTX either

Published by

Click here to post a comment for NVIDIA Ampere rumored to get four times more Ray-Tracing perf, no more GTX either on our message forum
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/196/196426.jpg
Please don't cost an arm and a leg, please don't cost an arm and a leg, lease don't cost an arm and a leg ! Really excited about this new generation ! Perhaps finally something to upgrade to...
data/avatar/default/avatar12.webp
Exactly my thoughts ! AND FOUR TO SIX TIME MORE EXPENSIVE 🙁 ... .maybe I will settle with a 3060 or 3070 🙁 if the lady will let me !
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/274/274779.jpg
IchimA:

Exactly my thoughts ! AND FOUR TO SIX TIME MORE EXPENSIVE 🙁 ... .maybe I will settle with a 3060 or 3070 🙁 if the lady will let me !
If too expensive i will keep spending.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/260/260048.jpg
Doubt it will be such a massive leap. It all depends on what AMD will come up with.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/79/79740.jpg
Hilbert Hagedoorn:

According to a new rumors originating from PCGamer...
Not really originating from PCGamer but from Moores Law is Dead YT channel of which his video was posted here yesterday with a lot more juicy details.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/223/223673.jpg
Prepare for a hefty price increase
data/avatar/default/avatar12.webp
By the time they hit the stores the refresh will be due.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/198/198862.jpg
3060 will beat 2080 super with raytracing enabled. Thats impressive but we are reaching that sad state of 500$ midrange gpus.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/79/79740.jpg
I dont know why people are automatically assuming there will be drastic price increases. Remember Nvidia is not selling heroin where people need to get their fix from the only dealer in existence. The new consoles, RDNA2, will also be around ready to take on disgruntled GPU users looking to get better value. Nvidia is a business where they have to contend with competition. Even without competition, I would think most gamers would just say no to silly prices and seek alternative ways to spend their time and money. Plus I think Nvidia also cares about having adequate market share that high prices dont end up squeezing them out.
data/avatar/default/avatar13.webp
Undying:

3060 will beat 2080 super with raytracing enabled. Thats impressive but we are reaching that sad state of 500$ midrange gpus.
Nvidia has always offered products in the $200-$300 price range, Turing is no exception (GTX 16 series). Question is only how well these will perform.
data/avatar/default/avatar09.webp
don't care about RT I avoid below 100fps gameplay (required for no motion blur black frame insertion monitor/tv modes, yep some modern tvs do that too) but I do care about a better nvenc it makes video encoding crazy fast easily doubling or more your encoding fps also like said previously my 1080ti is used at 100% nowadays I wish I had something that wasn't over-used and running at max power all the time
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/90/90667.jpg
I have the 1080TI so i'm not in a need for an upgrade, might even skip GPU upgrade and just buy a console if prices and games are right. Turing prices are complete blown out of proportion and with COVID-19 after effects, there is no possible way I'm going to spend more than $500 for a decent replacement.
data/avatar/default/avatar27.webp
Please AMD, even if you do a 3 slot GPU, make a comparable high end gpu for much lower price.
data/avatar/default/avatar37.webp
kakiharaFRS:

don't care about RT I avoid below 100fps gameplay (required for no motion blur black frame insertion monitor/tv modes, yep some modern tvs do that too) but I do care about a better nvenc it makes video encoding crazy fast easily doubling or more your encoding fps also like said previously my 1080ti is used at 100% nowadays I wish I had something that wasn't over-used and running at max power all the time
GPU running at 100% is a good thing. CPU running at 100% isnt. So I dont see a problem here.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/80/80129.jpg
ITGuru:

Latest Cryengine has achived ray tracing without any tensor cores or RTX cards for that matter, not only looking better than RTX but also with astonishing performance. There is a demo available online, anyone can see it. RTX is just another market grab, aka exclusive to Nvidia" like the useless physx....now defunct. I only bought my card for the sheer performance gain over my old 1080 TI, never bother ed with RTX side of it, and it only cost me 500 bucks on top of my old card, no brainer.
No it didn't, this entire post is inaccurate. It achieved raytraced reflections at half resolution, single bounce, with a really short falloff, the RT reflections were only some of the scene and the developers said they could accelerate the entire thing on Nvidia's RTX and plan on doing so: https://www.cryengine.com/news/view/how-we-made-neon-noir-ray-traced-reflections-in-cryengine-and-more
However, RTX will allow the effects to run at a higher resolution. At the moment on GTX 1080, we usually compute reflections and refractions at half-screen resolution. RTX will probably allow full-screen 4k resolution. It will also help us to have more dynamic elements in the scene, whereas currently, we have some limitations. Broadly speaking, RTX will not allow new features in CRYENGINE, but it will enable better performance and more details.
[youtube=efOR92n9mms] Video where they point out all the limitations with Cryengine implementation. Also raytracing is not exclusive to Nvidia, RTX is simply an acceleration pipeline for DXR, RDNA 2 has it and will be compatible with all RTX games and vice versa.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/218/218363.jpg
nVidia will use some of their high margins to compensate for the increased product cost in order to be competitive to AMD.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/180/180870.jpg
alanm:

I dont know why people are automatically assuming there will be drastic price increases. Remember Nvidia is not selling heroin where people need to get their fix from the only dealer in existence
because: 1) on same PP the price of the chip depends on the size the chip itself, so ampere will be bigger -> price will be higher 2) we saw that price escalation with turing (gtx1060 200$ rtx2060 350$ or 1080ti 700$ 2080ti 1000$) 3) no serious competition by AMD in enthusiast market 4) nvidia is nvidia
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/268/268355.jpg
for what do i need this if there are no games supporting it? and the only games supporting it are useless and sponsored by nivida what means more money spend on nothing, what also means more cost to the product. i still think its a big scam and absolutly usless for gamers. but nvidia is well know for this, remember the 16b vs 32b scam to discredit 3dfx ? for cartoon movie makers its a differnt story. they just need a reason to sell their overpriced cards and call it enthusiast, what a joke.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/242/242471.jpg
Well, I'll say again. Not long ago I saw some news saying next gen will bw at least 100$ cheaper and somewhat more in line with 1000 series. All higher end will see a price cut, except xx60 series. That said I doubt 3080ti will be more then 1000$.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/223/223196.jpg
I've read elsewhere that DLSS 2.0 will now finally use the tensor cores and not the regular shaders dragging FPS down. That alone should improve performance a lot on both the old RTX 2xxx and the new 3xxx. For me the 3xxx might be the first upgrade I'm interested again. When the GTX 1xxx series was released, tri-SLI on my GTX 980ti was still alive and well. Two 1080ti wouldn't have been much better. When tri-SLI scaling was eliminated in the driver and when one of my 980 died, the 1xxx series was already end of life, and the 2xxx way overpriced.