The day i'm concerned about my cpu directly hitting or being uneven the cooler, or lapping, or delidding, is the day I have too much money and time. Helps being in a cold country I guess

scatman839:

The day i'm concerned about my cpu directly hitting or being uneven the cooler, or lapping, or delidding, is the day I have too much money and time. Helps being in a cold country I guess

I don't think I could ever have too much money but different priorities I guess, delidding is fairly simple these days though with all these tools but I wouldn't lap a cpu again, tried it with an 8350 a few years ago, took hours and in the end the temps didn't even change, still managed to sell it on ebay, looked great with a mirror finish but yeah this is all fun to me and I can think of worst things to spend my time and money on 🙂

Very impressive. Thank you for posting this.

Darkiee:

It could, if you have measurements and CNC machine ^^

I don't have the measures, but I could reproduce it without a CNC machine.

kruno:

Measurements aren't the problem, couple grand of € is 🙂

Why would you need all that money to reproduce it?

sykozis:

I don't have the measures, but I could reproduce it without a CNC machine. Why would you need all that money to reproduce it?

For buying CNC machine 🙂:):)

Agent-A01:

Did you even bother watching the video? He compared exactly that. 5-10c drop

Yes, 5 - 7 ºC better temps (hottest core). That looks good, but don't forget that this is a promotional video made by the same guy that is trying to sell his stuff. Just like I don't fully believe in numbers provided by nVidia or AMD in their promotional slides, I prefer to see if this numbers can be replicated by independent reviews or normal users in real life. Maybe he is only showing the best case scenario. Again, I'm thinking in 2 - 3ºC better cooling with this, but if most user can get 5 - 7 ºC (or more), then it's worth it.

kruno:

For buying CNC machine 🙂:):)

You don't need a CNC machine to reproduce it. Just need a good machinist.

nosirrahx:

No issue with the price either. People that buy a delidding tool are already few and far between, this will be even less sought after. Without a steep price the RIO makes this a pointless invention.

Dont know about that, I got my deliding tool for 8700k on ebay from china for like 10$, its fully metal, death simple to use and works fine like "premium" tools, you dont need to be extreme enthusiast to enjoy deliding BTW, Chinese copied MSI DELID Die Guard, its the same tool he made just for mainstream CPUs Take a look

FranciscoCL:

Yes, 5 - 7 ºC better temps (hottest core). That looks good, but don't forget that this is a promotional video made by the same guy that is trying to sell his stuff. Just like I don't fully believe in numbers provided by nVidia or AMD in their promotional slides, I prefer to see if this numbers can be replicated by independent reviews or normal users in real life. Maybe he is only showing the best case scenario. Again, I'm thinking in 2 - 3ºC better cooling with this, but if most user can get 5 - 7 ºC (or more), then it's worth it.

der8auer is highly regarded in his field. He definitely isn't fabricating his results. Hardly comparable to corporations like amd

I want one of these for Skylake at $40 max. A shim can be bought that rests on the CPU for an even load across the die. But the CPU socket plastic needs shaving as it stands proud of the CPU leaving a gap between the heatsink and the die. Shaving the socket means I will have trouble selling the mobo later so I need a socket replacement like this plate so I can restore the mobo back to original condition. Those wondering why its worth the bother: Delidding a CPU can result in problems. Liquid metal between the die and lid eats the lids metal, even copper. If a cleanup is needed it can easily result in an uneven underside of the lid. An uneven lid underside results in uneven temps across the die unless you use liquid metal again. My problem is exactly that but the lid was shipped uneven. I wont use liquid metal btw. 1/2 my CPU cores were always warmer by around 7C to 10C. After delidding with new paste applied the core temps all match but after a few weeks the same problem comes back as the paste migrates out. This results in a lower overclock. Tried many times with different pastes. The cause is the warp in the lids underside. I want to get rid of my lid but need a practical method that doesnt involve socket damage.

I wanna see a 5.1ghz 7980xe setup one of these days, should be possible with this and enough rads, lmao

I remember old gpus having a plastic shim that clip onto the substrate to prevent cooler movement damaging the gpu die why wouldn't something like that work here for a fraction of the cost?

LEEc337:

I remember old gpus having a plastic shim that clip onto the substrate to prevent cooler movement damaging the gpu die why wouldn't something like that work here for a fraction of the cost?

See the post 2 above yours.

MegaFalloutFan:

Dont know about that, I got my deliding tool for 8700k on ebay from china for like 10$, its fully metal, death simple to use and works fine like "premium" tools, you dont need to be extreme enthusiast to enjoy deliding BTW, Chinese copied MSI DELID Die Guard, its the same tool he made just for mainstream CPUs Take a look

Anyone can make a similar device and drive the price down. If you are first to market you get to make a high profit, that is how it is and how it should be. Especially when you are talking about a luxury item. No one on earth could logically compare this mounting plate to charging $20 for a bottle of water after a disaster.

Sorry dude had the thought earlier came back to post without reading previous, I'm not familiar with skylake-x seating but surely there's wiggle room for shim or maybe some firm rubber pads to self adhesive to the substrate and protect the die from the cooler a bit like athlon xp cpus

LEEc337:

Sorry dude had the thought earlier came back to post without reading previous, I'm not familiar with skylake-x seating but surely there's wiggle room for shim or maybe some firm rubber pads to self adhesive to the substrate and protect the die from the cooler a bit like athlon xp cpus

I think you missed the problem. The socket corners sit higher than the CPU core. When you fit a heatsink it sits on top of the CPUs plastic socket, not the CPUs die. Only a very small heatsink will fit without touching the corners of the socket, my water block doesnt.

Lol definitely misreading the problem thanks for the lesson in skylake-x

sykozis:

You don't need a CNC machine to reproduce it. Just need a good machinist.

And how fast do you think something like that can be made by a 'good machinist'? I know a bit about metal fabrication being a gunsmith and such a specialized low volume product would probably make very little profit even at that price considering the costs of setup, tooling, CNC time, machinist time, materials, etc, especially if manufactured to very tight tolerances. A lot of shops probably wouldn't even take the job considering the small numbers involved. Now i guess if you happen to have a few hundred thousand dollar CNC at your disposal, or a machine shop, and you are a skilled machinist, yeah you can make one for yourself. But one things for sure, the amount of time you'd spent making a one-off, you could have made 20x more than you would would have paid for this plate.

Andrew LB:

And how fast do you think something like that can be made by a 'good machinist'? I know a bit about metal fabrication being a gunsmith and such a specialized low volume product would probably make very little profit even at that price considering the costs of setup, tooling, CNC time, machinist time, materials, etc, especially if manufactured to very tight tolerances. A lot of shops probably wouldn't even take the job considering the small numbers involved. Now i guess if you happen to have a few hundred thousand dollar CNC at your disposal, or a machine shop, and you are a skilled machinist, yeah you can make one for yourself. But one things for sure, the amount of time you'd spent making a one-off, you could have made 20x more than you would would have paid for this plate.

I never said it could be done quickly. I simply said it is in fact possible. I know 3 machinists local to me that could in fact reproduce it without a CNC machine. I never said it would be cost effective to do so either. For me to have one made, I'd be out the cost of getting one from "der8auer" to use as a template and an additional $100 to fabricate 1 with declining cost for each reproduction. To be financially viable, I'd have to have roughly 10,000 produced and sold before I'd break even. Wouldn't be the first time I've had a "one-off" part made though. Hell, wouldn't even be the second or third time. I used to do it all the time. Before my divorce, I was working with a machinist to have scooter parts made.