$17000 =\ oh well, I think this one is also specially designed for medical use :P Anything that has anything to do with health, costs ~10x more (just saying) than it should be.

Man, they even included speakers... just magnificent. :eyes:

They need to make a 40'' version of this.

60hz? No ty.

Sorry, but sony offers a full array back-lit 12bit led lcd, with more brightness, widest contrast range, widest color gamut and a 240hz panel. Already calibrated and made in japan, available since spring 2014. Wouldn't really call NEC a leading brand for that one..

60hz? No ty.

You DO know that is with Any 4k content. Has nothing to do with the panel, but the signal. Since no 4k content is shot with higher Hz, and hdmi 2.0 specs only incl 60Hz. Panel can still be 120 or 240 like all sony 4K uhd tvs...

I want this at 1/10 the price! Just so awesome! 😀

60hz? No ty.

Do some research on UHD4k signals through HDMI and DisplayPort before you start bitching. Once you take the time and do so you'll find that there are bandwidth limitations in the HDMI (2.0) and DisplayPort (1.2) specifications. Those limitations are why you can only do 60Hz at UHD4k. Prior to the release of HDMI 2.0, bandwidth limitations in HDMI 1.4 limited UHD4k to 30Hz. The DisplayPort 1.3 specification released in September allows for 60Hz up to UHD8k resolutions (using Y'CbCr 4:2:0) according to this link at Anandtech.

NEC makes some really nice monitors -I loved my 2490wuxi back in the day- and they don't milk numbers like everyone else. They cover their stuff with some good warranties too Probably not a gamers choice these days but that does not mean they are not good

You DO know that is with Any 4k content. Has nothing to do with the panel, but the signal. Since no 4k content is shot with higher Hz, and hdmi 2.0 specs only incl 60Hz. Panel can still be 120 or 240 like all sony 4K uhd tvs...

Do some research on 4k signals through HDMI and DisplayPort before you start bitching. Once you take the time and do so you'll find that there are bandwidth limitations in the HDMI (2.0) and DisplayPort (1.2) specifications. Those limitations are why you can only do 60Hz at 4k. Prior to the release of HDMI 2.0, bandwidth limitations in HDMI 1.4 limited 4k to 30Hz. The DisplayPort 1.3 specification released in September allows for 60Hz up to 8k resolutions (using Y'CbCr 4:2:0) according to this link at Anandtech.

No ty means that I will wait for the 120hz someday:3eyes:

No ty means that I will wait for the 120hz someday:3eyes:

You didn't really give that impression.

@deusex nope. contrast range is limited, there "blind" to colors i can still see on a sony XBR, color banding (and not just a little). just to get better refresh and response times, im not gonna sacrifice other things that DO make a difference for picture quality (opposite Hz and GTG). i have seen them side by side, and they're not anywhere close to what can be done on a good led driven lcd. plus, they only reach half the life of an lcd, so your paying twice as much to cover the same "time frame", all while IQ is reduced... after i showed a couple of images/demos, none of the customers were still interested in buying an OLED... http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/iyhi-4-a87f.jpg http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/iyhi-5-e4da.jpg

OLED should be standard by now. From what I have read anyone who seen OLED TV schoose it over 4K.

This man speaks the truth. I had originally planned to upgrade my x58 system to x99. But once I saw the second gen 55 inch LG oled for 3500 in best buy I couldn't believe oled's were already in a sane price range and the picture on it was drop dead gorgeous. It made the 4k LCD sets look really bland and washed out next to it. Shopped around online and found the LG 55ec9300 for 3000 dollars from clevelandplasma with free pick up to avoid shipping charges and damage during shipping. Since I was only a 50 minute drive from them I went and picked one up. I have never been more happy with a tech purchase and totally don't mind being stuck with my x58 till skylake-e since i get to enjoy this oled set. It was a little rough going from a 60 inch panasonic 60vt50 and losing 5 inches but the size sacrifice and pc upgrade sacrifice was the best choice I ever made. It is not even comparable, 1080 oled is MILES ahead of 4k LCD in picture quality. I am afraid to use the oled as a pc monitor tho as burn in is a real thing with these new oleds. An oled tv should be at the top of every 1's christmas wish list. I now have a massive 60 inch plasma in my bedroom and the oled in living room The best thing about the oled and what really makes the rest of the picture so punchy is the incredible deep pure blacks and superb shadow detail. It's like the foundation of the picture is so much purer the rest of the picture explodes with contrast. Every person that sees it comments that they have never seen a picture that looked so good. If you have a pc thats old like mine but still getting the job done you really should rethink buying pc parts and just get the LG oled. The first gen 1 is on sale for like 2500 on amazon something like that but if you can go with the second gen. The whole thing with 4k is that the amount of content is so limited you are just a million times better off getting a 1080 oled and holding on to the 1080 oled until 4k oleds become sanely priced. Even if that takes something like 7 years to happen you won't miss it and then by the time all those years go by there should at least be decent content for 4k and then you can have the truly ultimate picture 4k + oled in the same set.

@deusex nope. contrast range is limited, there "blind" to colors i can still see on a sony XBR, color banding (and not just a little). just to get better refresh and response times, im not gonna sacrifice other things that DO make a difference for picture quality (opposite Hz and GTG). i have seen them side by side, and they're not anywhere close to what can be done on a good led driven lcd. plus, they only reach half the life of an lcd, so your paying twice as much to cover the same "time frame", all while IQ is reduced... after i showed a couple of images/demos, none of the customers were still interested in buying an OLED... http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/iyhi-4-a87f.jpg http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/iyhi-5-e4da.jpg

my issue with the higher bit depth of color or whatever the sonys have is what content actually takes advantage of 12 bit color or whatever it is doing. Sure there special demo material shows they can do more colors but the tv loses in contrast ratio and im pretty sure most sources dont even use that deep of a color palette. If you like the LCD's to each his own but I'm in love with oled.

i rather bottleneck on the tv with 12bit, than match lower bits from signal. plus, they shoot 4k which goes onto mastered 4k BDs and the matching BD player supports 14bit. @laststop always the "content" reason... sony has 4k unlimited service for a year now. youtube/netflix are doing 4K, but the main thing is: sony is doing upscaling to 2/4k in almost every theater in the US for 10y. ever heard someone complaining about the picture quality when they came out of the movies?? AND: what content besides BD and computer are providing a 1080p/40-50Mbit signal?? cable doesnt even match FHD, and it needs to be upscaled, exactly like it would be on the 4Ks, except the 4k have a higher resolution. so on a FHD its a good feat, but on UHD sets its not? and in the 21st century i will not pay ANY money on a screen that can still burn in...

Can you all please stop calling 2160P "4K". It's not and at the very least call it UltraHD 4K, 'the temporary stop-over until UltraHD 8K'. Srsly grinds my gears. As for those pictures, what screen is what?