I run my pc at ddr3 2400Mhz 10-10-10-27. Anandtech did a pretty indepth study of all the available memory speeds and timings and 2400mhz at cas10 was the best performer beating out faster speeds at higher latencies and lower speed at tighter timings. gskill ram is the brand i run

No, it does not make sense. Because that is not how reality works. There is no magical secret sauce on higher speed RAM, either it is capable of higher speeds and lower timing or it's not. In order to quell confusion, as you obviously are, we have a handy organization called JEDEC to create standards for us. All RAM must follow these standards, and regardless if it has a fancy heatsink or uses delicious gold plated tits, a piece of RAM sold at 2133mhz following JEDEC will perform identical to every other piece sold at the same speed. If we didn't do this companies could sell crap RAM with horrible timings but advertise as being something like 2400mhz. So yes, an awesome piece of 2400mhz RAM running at 1600mhz using JEDEC (your BIOS does this automatically unless you manually change it) will be identical in performance to a cheapo 1600mhz stick. Linus' video, while annoying (his voice, it's just nails on chalkboard), is accurate. Also as a side note, some people will underclock their faster RAM at slower spec, a RAM stick binned at 1866mhz is likely to run stable for longer will less errors at 1600mhz.

So according to you we never ever have to review memory from different manufacturers because they will all benchmark and perform the same.. Right ? That is what your saying in simple terms. You should edit your post because its oh so broken.

There are actually benefits to higher speed RAM these days. If you've got the right platform for it. Haswell and Devil's Canyon* in particular really benefit from 2133 or 2400. Not all programs/games will show any difference, but there are definitely some that do.

So according to you we never ever have to review memory from different manufacturers because they will all benchmark and perform the same.. Right ? That is what your saying in simple terms. You should edit your post because its oh so broken.

Nothing I said is incorrect. Good reviews for RAM will demonstrate XMP profiles if there are any, they will also overclock it to show the limits of the piece, and run the RAM on different platforms and CPUs. The latter can have a huge impact, apples to apples comparisons of ram running jedec spec will show no difference which is why most review places do not do that, and if they do its usually not apples to apples and will list the rest of platform the benchmark was run on. Motherboards being the most important. I dont think you have any interest in learning, but let me help you http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JEDEC_memory_standards#JEDEC_standardization_goals

Nothing I said is incorrect. Good reviews for RAM will demonstrate XMP profiles if there are any, they will also overclock it to show the limits of the piece, and run the RAM on different platforms and CPUs. The latter can have a huge impact, apples to apples comparisons of ram running jedec spec will show no difference which is why most review places do not do that, and if they do its usually not apples to apples and will list the rest of platform the benchmark was run on. Motherboards being the most important. I dont think you have any interest in learning, but let me help you http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JEDEC_memory_standards#JEDEC_standardization_goals

Stop spamming garbage, You don't understand what it is im trying to explain to you. Take your time and read it slower if your having problems absorbing what im trying to teach you, Give yourself a little longer to read whats being written and maybe you will understand it then. Now take a deep breath and take your time pls I don't want to have to do this again. Performance under certain Stress tests used in Overclocking is increasing if you use High Frequency rated ram with lower clocks and lower timings more than if you increase Frequency not to mention heat and power consumption and more stable Overclock in general... Any good overclocker first establishes him self a steady BUS on the CPU/MOBO/RAM and then with playing with the Vcore tries to achieve higher clock speeds not the other way around...! He should not of used this memory to test lower clocks because that memory will give better results at lower clocks because its better quality than memory rated @ lower clocks.

This is ironic. Your dribble is hardly readable. Anyway, maybe this is a case of buyers remorse. Im sorry, but facts are facts, due to standards ram rated at certain speeds perform identical. This is why manufacturers use so much marketing for ram. Its not my fault you are too thick headed to understand this.

Ah, ignorance is bliss, that's for true. You'd think you could expect more from a forum like this, but no. anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell Read the above article, educate yourself, and come back with comments on the topic.

Because that is not how reality works.

agree, it depend of what you need... i was using super OC processor and ultra (expensive) fast ram... now i use normal speed Xeon and ECC ram... and it perform the same, for game. (of course for working it is much more fast thx to tesla).

I'm kinda anxious to see what AMD APU's will be capable of once they get DDR4 support. Should boost performance a fair bit.

There are actually benefits to higher speed RAM these days. If you've got the right platform for it. Haswell and Devil's Canyon* in particular really benefit from 2133 or 2400. Not all programs/games will show any difference, but there are definitely some that do.

Really? http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2014/march/haswellrealworld Yea, it's cherry picked benchmarks, but still shows benefits over +12% at times.

This is ironic. Your dribble is hardly readable. Anyway, maybe this is a case of buyers remorse. Im sorry, but facts are facts, due to standards ram rated at certain speeds perform identical. This is why manufacturers use so much marketing for ram. Its not my fault you are too thick headed to understand this.

Hard to believe someone wrote more than one post denying JEDEC standards exist/are relevant. This whole thread is really weird. You're obviously gonna have higher memory bandwidth at higher speeds, the point is that finding that freqs/timings sweet spot is not going to affect your gaming performance significantly , and if it does you're not straining your GPU hard enough.

Everything higher then 1600 fbs is bullcrap for gaming. Video/editor thats a different story.

Linus tech tips has a video on YT showing tests of ram from 1333 -3000. There is no difference really, if you could get DDR4 down to 9-9-9-24 then maybe a small increase. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA2C61z4

Linus is a complete and utter moron pal. Do not go quoting that loser here. It's not going to make you look good. Simple fact if the matter is he just changed the memory ratio, voltage and primary timings. He did NOT change the secondary or tertiary timings, for that he is a n00b (I knew this already, I can't stand the little prick). It's obvious you yourself don't know a thing about this subject or you wouldn't have tried to steer us towards a "Linus Goof Tips" video. *edit* I'm not saying that changing the secondary and tertiary timings will make a huge difference, but having your secondary and tertiary timings all messed up can and will affect frame times. Period. I've seen it happen, it's not debatable. To what level it screws with gaming is dependent on how bad you messed up manually inputting those timings, but it happens. Mark my words. Furthermore, every single person here saying "oh you don't need more than 1600mhz RAM for gaming, anything more is a waste" HAS 1600mhz RAM in their sig rig. To the person who mentioned "buyers remorse", you seem to be one of these people. Buyers remorse goes both ways here. I believe some of the 1600mhz users do in fact have just that (buyers remorse) and it comes out in other ways. Such as attacking other members for their opinions. :-)