Do these PCI-Express risers affect speed/bandwidth? ahm, nvm http://lmgtfy.com/?q=do+pci+express+riser+affect+speed

Mmmmmm.... no. Certainly a pretty case but there a whole bunch of practicality issues that make it a no-sale for me: 1) Optical drive bay is sideways. That's not a good design. 2) PSU is in front so you're blowing hot air inside the case. 3) Only one VGA card possible means no SLI/CF. 4) 4 USB 3.0 ports on the front is nice but why waste the 2 or 3 USB 2.0 pin header pairs on the motherboard? Why are there no USB 2.0 ports on the front/top/side/whatever. For this price I expect at least four USB 2.0 ports. 5) No reset button. While not necessity for the price that they are charging for this thing they can dam well afford to put a reset button on the front 6) The ports and the on/off button is mounted at the bottom of the front panel??? Why? How is that practical? Why would I want to reach all the way down to the bottom of the case so I can access the front panel? No, sorry Lian-li but I can get eye-candy cases for less from other OEMs that don't put form over function.

Certainly a pretty case but there a whole bunch of practicality issues that make it a no-sale for me: 1) Optical drive bay is sideways. That's not a good design. 2) PSU is in front so you're blowing hot air inside the case. 3) Only one VGA card possible means no SLI/CF. 4) 4 USB 3.0 ports on the front is nice but why waste the 2 or 3 USB 2.0 pin header pairs on the motherboard? Why are there no USB 2.0 ports on the front/top/side/whatever. For this price I expect at least four USB 2.0 ports. 5) No reset button. While not necessity for the price that they are charging for this thing they can dam well afford to put a reset button on the front 6) The ports and the on/off button is mounted at the bottom of the front panel??? Why? How is that practical? Why would I want to reach all the way down to the bottom of the case so I can access the front panel? No, sorry Lian-li but I can get eye-candy cases for less from other OEMs that don't put form over function.

It has 4 expansion slots, just only comes with one riser. Other than that I agree with your other points. 😀

It has 4 expansion slots, just only comes with one riser. Other than that I agree with your other points. 😀

It's not just the one riser that is the problem, it's that you probably want one slot worth of space between your VGA cards so that it's fan can breathe well. If you're running a liqid cooling system then that will probabaly be OK, but all this assumes you have a second PCIe riser. Also, I don't see how a second riser's ribbon cable could even reach a second card. It's just not long enough! Oh, and then there's the fact that that riser and it's ribbon cable must be adding a bit of latency (however small) to the interconnect.

It's not just the one riser that is the problem, it's that you probably want one slot worth of space between your VGA cards so that it's fan can breathe well. If you're running a liqid cooling system then that will probabaly be OK, but all this assumes you have a second PCIe riser. Also, I don't see how a second riser's ribbon cable could even reach a second card. It's just not long enough! Oh, and then there's the fact that that riser and it's ribbon cable must be adding a bit of latency (however small) to the interconnect.

I think the whole riser card system Lian Li uses is not done correctly anyway, the riser card included didn't even reach properly without rearranging it. Looking at it though, the cards will be close but if there is good enough air flow through the whole case you would be okay. http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=15403&admin=0a8fcaad6b03da6a6895d1ada2e171002a287bc1 There are four slots there, but an issue I think I'm seeing is with an ATX motherboard it only fits one dual slot video card! A micro-ATX board would fix this issue. http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=15417&admin=0a8fcaad6b03da6a6895d1ada2e171002a287bc1 It looks like you can add a second riser card right there to secure it in, if not then I guess no issue except you need something to support the video card from the bottom or the back.

Correction in the review: you mentioned an EATX motherboard not fitting 100%, but you are using an XLATX mother board which is longer then what the case was designed to accommodate. This case is designed for ATX/EATX motherboards. The reason why your PCI-E cable is too short and why you can't fit two cards is because the MSI Big Bang board is an XLATX which is 1.6" longer than an EATX motherboard.

...I see nothing good about this case, i'm quite confused as to how anyone does

Quite narrow @ 148mm. Wonder how well airflow is. GPU may cool nicely in that position but how about the rest.

How much space for watercooling Hi, I had the same question :

Do these PCI-Express risers affect speed/bandwidth? ahm, nvm http://lmgtfy.com/?q=do+pci+express+riser+affect+speed

Found this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1427731/pci-express-extender-cables-benchmarked Now, I have another question. I would like to mount a radiator + 3 fans or maybe 6 fans (push/pull). It is said that we have 60mm space for radiator but does it means with fans? 2nd question, I need to put a reservoir instead of the space for hard drives. how much space there is below the PSU? I will be using a Seasonic P860. Can a 270 fit into the space? I will receive the case this month (september), and I've ordered pretty much everything else but the radiator and the reservoir. I want to maximize the cooling for my Intel skylake 6700 and GTX 980 Ti 🙂 It would greatly help. Thanks