mentor07825:

I've always wondered about the "These rules apply to everyone." part, in that does Amazon pay Apple 30% on every sale done through an iOS app?

Loobyluggs:

No, would be my interpretation as it is not a subscription of a service but a portal to transactions post-install of the app, versus pre-install of the app up-front cost of actually purchasing the app itself. Additionally, as the app and the website and, all other portals, all have the exact same charge for goods, then there is no foul play. The big thing in the T's and C's for Apple is taking people elsewhere, but, as Amazon has existed before the App Store, and, one can buy Apple products at the App Store, no one really considers the two in competition with each other, or, to be undermining each other. But you are right; it is a fine line.

mentor07825:

I've always wondered about the "These rules apply to everyone." part, in that does Amazon pay Apple 30% on every sale done through an iOS app?

schmidtbag:

To further elaborate on what @Loobyluggs said, I get the impression the line comes down to whether the store buys something that runs on iOS vs something completely unrelated to iOS. So, the Amazon app is ok because buying physical tangible items has nothing to do with Apple's ecosystem. The Epic Games Store being free yet allowing you to play games on your iOS device is a pretty egregious way of evading the App Store and cutting out Apple's profits, as well as their screening process (whether you prefer that or not). So, I would say the line is actually pretty well-defined. Whether you agree with where Apple drew that line or their greedy approach to their store is a whole other story.

schmidtbag:

To further elaborate on what @Loobyluggs said, I get the impression the line comes down to whether the store buys something that runs on iOS vs something completely unrelated to iOS. So, the Amazon app is ok because buying physical tangible items has nothing to do with Apple's ecosystem. The Epic Games Store being free yet allowing you to play games on your iOS device is a pretty egregious way of evading the App Store and cutting out Apple's profits, as well as their screening process (whether you prefer that or not). So, I would say the line is actually pretty well-defined. Whether you agree with where Apple drew that line or their greedy approach to their store is a whole other story.

Loobyluggs:

No, would be my interpretation as it is not a subscription of a service but a portal to transactions post-install of the app, versus pre-install of the app up-front cost of actually purchasing the app itself. Additionally, as the app and the website and, all other portals, all have the exact same charge for goods, then there is no foul play. The big thing in the T's and C's for Apple is taking people elsewhere, but, as Amazon has existed before the App Store, and, one can buy Apple products at the App Store, no one really considers the two in competition with each other, or, to be undermining each other. But you are right; it is a fine line.

EspHack:

what bothers me is how people this dumb have this kind of money, system is very broken...

cryohellinc:

Here's an example - dumb people, make lazy stupid content on youtube that takes 0 effort - example: "What I ate today" - 1 million views; meanwhile a well researched historical topic - 30 views. Guess who will make more cash? Exactly.

Venix:

the company that will file a lawsuit cause the historian used for 0.762 seconds a picture that they have somehow copyrighted !

EspHack:

what bothers me is how people this dumb have this kind of money, system is very broken...