I was gonna buy a TR but at that price.....

Killian38:

I was gonna buy a TR but at that price.....

I'm confused. Are you saying this overly priced non-consumer, will be hard to find, and be even more expensive then stated here, somehow makes you want it over threadrippers much cheaper pricing? Again, i dont understand.

Killian38:

I was gonna buy a TR but at that price.....

$3K USD in batches of 1000, you getting your hands on it will be more like $4K from what I've heard so far. On top of that, the price to system builders for the motherboards is rumoured to be $1.7K USD. For you to get your hands on this CPU + a compatible motherboard can realistically end up costing $6K+. Then you have to factor in how much it'd cost for something which can effectively cool that abomination. I'd just get a Threadripper system, OC it, and call it a day. Even if it ends up significantly cheaper than current rumours it'd still be better value to get a TR system.

I don't think this CPU was ment for gaming, this is for the big firms that need Intel CPU's for other tasks. The cost will bee high 4k-5k so no point to get it for gaming. Buyers will always be or they will not produce those CPU's. And the people that will by those CPU's will not OC them.

Product page is up if you search for it: https://ark.intel.com/products/189452/Intel-Xeon-W-3175X-Processor-38-5M-Cache-3-10-GHz-?q=3175X

Embra:

That's pretty cheap for Intel.

Yes, it's the exact price of the most expensive TR aviable right now... Exept that Intel have more core and more power per core. Why not a Xeon then? when i was younger i get a hand on a Xeon unlocked sample and it was prety damn good... sadly the release were around 2ghz and locked.

SweenJM:

That's $2999 per unit if you order 1000 units.....i am sure they cost a lot more individually. Still, i bet it really screams.

Xeon doesn't pass by small shop, or small group (exept sometime but it's an exeptional sale). So 1000 units is really a normal sale at this volume. The good thing is that individually exept HP and Fudjisu, most final saler will kept in or at this price range (they will make money on the mobo they will try to sell with it or the "service" they can provide with it (it's not RMA like for mainstream, for pro it can cost more than this CPU).

nicugoalkeper:

I don't think this CPU was ment for gaming, ... And the people that will by those CPU's will not OC them.

-Yes it is not made for gaming despite it can do it... BTW TR is not too good at gaming either, a Ryzen is a better choise for gaming. -This is a legend... certain work need OC as there is no processor that can do it otb... it is for that there is specialist that make vaccum cooling or WC box in standard rack size. Also there can be "special demand" if your company have money...

UnrealGaming:

Just saw this review earlier. Seems to be a lot faster than AMD 2990 in some scenarios. Also does a lot better in games. Not sure how amd botched the gaming so bad

Is that a serious question? Anyone who buys either of these CPUs for the sake of gaming is frankly an idiot. The only major advantages the 2990WX has over the W3175X is a higher core count and a much lower price, neither of which has any benefit on games. It can't clock as high, there are fewer memory channels, half of the cores don't have direct memory access, the Windows scheduler is notoriously inept for it, and there's the whole UMA/NUMA thing. So yeah, of course the 2990WX is going to do poorly in gaming, why wouldn't it?

SamuelL421:

I like GN but they (and most reviewers) desperately need to drop the 1080p benchmarks, some of those in the GN video were even 1080p at medium settings. No offense is meant to anyone gaming on older hardware, but it is doubtful that anybody spending several thousand on a new system is playing at 1080p. The few people I know with a high refresh Gsync or Freesync even play at 1440p+. There is little appreciable difference between most recent, high-end CPUs when gaming @ 4K.

Ask Hilbert or other hardware reviewers about dropping 1080p support and I'm sure they can give you evidence of people who will angerly insist to keep 1080p benchmarks. It's worth pointing out the "little appreciable difference ... @ 4K" is exactly why 1080p gaming is of interest. When you're trying to benchmark a CPU, you want to remove the GPU as the bottleneck. Of course, people who game at 1080p with a 2080Ti is a pretty unlikely combination (well, unless you like RTX on...) but it still helps highlight a CPU's strengths or weaknesses. All that being said though, people take framerates way too seriously. If the framerate reaches what your display can handle and the frametimes look good, that should be all anyone cares about. But, people are willing to spend 25% to even 100% more for a 5-15% improvement, just for the sake of having a bigger number. I personally like the 4K test results because it makes people realize how petty their demands are.

But but but, can it run Crysis ??? 😀

For everyone talking about games in this thread: this is not a gaming CPU, only a very low number of these will ever play a game. Any benchmarks regarding games on these are useless, I bet i9 plays games better without having seen the numbers. These are clearly workstation CPUs, and not your average workstation either. These are meant for big companies that can afford them, not your average youtuber that likes to game on the same machine it edits vlogs. Ryzen 7 and i7 are the consumer products that allot of people will buy and use for various things. Even most TR will probably never play a game, only a select few enthusiasts can afford such hardware, as most will be at companies. But hey, graphs are fun, right?

Looking about $1500 for the mobo, too. Not to mentional ALL THE DIMMS! to feed it...

rl66:

Yes, it's the exact price of the most expensive TR aviable right now... Exept that Intel have more core and more power per core.

... What? Most expensive TR is the 2990WX, at $1799, with 32 cores, 64 threads..... This processor is $3000 (at 1000-unit batch, buy a single you're looking at 3700-4000 given past processors histories of the same situations) with 28-cores 56 threads..... You're correct only in that per-core there is more power due to a higher all-core boost frequency, that's it. I really don't understand what you guys keep posting in this thread....it's either blatant lies, or inability to actually research what you're talking about. There is literally never been a TR at $3000

Convert in Euro add the custom tax and the importator marging because AMD is not officially imported and Intel is... and then you have it 🙂 . Of course there is a way to get cheaper on neighbour country (as i have done with my 200GE) but if the mobile custom control get you... acceptable % with a inexpensive CPU but good luck with a $3000 product...

BetA:

haha, indeed... OC @ 1225 WATTS [youtube=o-6Iwb2HihE]

Translate that to Horse Power...

rl66:

-This is a legend... certain work need OC as there is no processor that can do it otb... it is for that there is specialist that make vaccum cooling or WC box in standard rack size. Also there can be "special demand" if your company have money...

For the majority of applications where you would consider such a CPU, (FEA/CFD simulations, rendering etc) it is highly unlikely that the user would overclock this chip as stability, error free results and power consumption are usually far bigger concerns than completing a simulation ~1-10% faster. If your week long simulation crashes halfway through it doesn't matter if you would have saved half a day of run time by oc-ing it. If the sim produces erroneous results and you or your company don't catch it until experimental testing or even worse after a product hits the market. Then you could be talking up to 10's of millions of dollars lost. Best case scenario is you have to run that entire sim again. Out of curiosity what work needs an OC?

rl66:

Convert in Euro add the custom tax and the importator marging because AMD is not officially imported and Intel is... and then you have it 🙂 .

Your individual taxes and etc. Have nothing to do with the pricing of a product, and doesn't explain the rest of your post that was also filled with lies. So no, i believe you're coming up with this nonsense because you were called out. If threadripper really costs $3000 equivalent where you are, thats your countries fault, and show proof. And, show proof where you, individually, can find the processor in this thread, for the same $3000 equivalent. But again, doesn't explain the other lies, such as how 28 cores is more then 32.... $1700 is not $3000 Since you mentioned euro, i'll provide some euro prices https://www.amazon.de/Zotac-YD299XAZAFWOF-Threadripper-3-00GHz-Schwarz/dp/B07G25SD1P/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1548972942&sr=8-1&keywords=2990wx Germany = 1779 euro, 2036 USD, nowhere near $3000, or 2620 euro https://www.amazon.fr/AMD-YD299XAZAFWOF-Processeur-2990WX-Socket/dp/B07G25SD1P/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1548973506&sr=8-1&keywords=2990wx France = same as above https://www.amazon.es/AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-2990WX-Procesador/dp/B07G25SD1P/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1548973186&sr=8-1&keywords=2990wx Spain = 1757 euro, 2011 USD, nowhere near $3000 or 2620 euro https://www.amazon.it/AMD-Threadripper-2990-Wx-32-core-processore/dp/B07G25SD1P/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1548973398&sr=8-1&keywords=2990wx Italy = same as above I'm certain there are other websites in the other european countries that use the euro that amazon does not exist in, since you have not provided the country you live in, i can't not check to see if your "statement" is true, but again, i want to make this very clear: It does not matter what your country charges for a product, that's your countries fault, it matters what the price of a product is by that people who manufacture it and sell it. If AMD does not send product to your country and you have to get it from 3rd party means which rises the cost, that's your countries fault.

Are they also making a package with a chiller and the CPU, because damn that 28 core runs hot. AMD TR will give you better IPC, more cores, lower power draw, lower price....

Intel's cpus have twice the value. So a 3k € Intel cpu is cheaper than a 1.7~1.8k € AMD equivalent. Get your facts right here, you are tech gurus.

warlord:

Intel's cpus have twice the value. So a 3k € Intel cpu is cheaper than a 1.7~1.8k € AMD equivalent. Get your facts right here, you are tech gurus.

You really do try your best at trolling don't you. What i really find frightening is if you really and truly believe the nonsense stated above.

Aura89:

You really do try your best at trolling don't you. What i really find frightening is if you really and truly believe the nonsense stated above.

He's somewhat right....what is the value of an 8 core bulldozer vs 4 core haswell... You made ryzen the new god when in fact it is still slower....benchmarks show this and fastest is still fastest...not the slower one with great value.