Intel Might Drop 10nm node for Desktop processors
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Fox2232
If it can't clock to 5GHz+, those chips would not be competitive. They can still be used for mobile domination.
It may still be suitable for dGPU. Intel knows, for us it is unknown.
Andy Watson
It' a shame Ice Lake does not clock very high, as the increase in IPC is very good. You get good IPC but then not many C's though, one hand giveth and one hand taketh away, amen.
I assume 7nm has both IPC and clocks. AMD needs to make hay whilst the sun shines.
nevcairiel
Intels 14nm is still a competitive process performance-wise, and if they use their $3B to do competitive pricing, then the next year is still interesting, and even more so once Intels 7nm arrives (which should be competitive with TSMC 5nm at that point).
Fediuld
LOL. Epic, who could have thought. 🙄
2022 AMD going to be on Zen 5 5nm, and Ice Lake IPC is bit worse than the expected Zen 3, given the IPC gains of the Zen 2 over CFL also. In the mean time we going to have Zen 3 7nm+ and Zen 4 at 6/5nm EUV while Intel still has 14nm Skylake.
Fediuld
nizzen
nevcairiel
386SX
kakiharaFRS
7nm doesn't work properly
Intel is learning with Ryzen troubles and smart to make something that works rather than beta test their technology on consumers, now if only they started sacrificing wafer space and not compacting so much their cores onto a tiny die area (it lowers their manufacturing cost, more dies on one wafer) they would be easier to cool and work better
in case you didn't know the 9900k and those others chips are super small, dwarves compared to Ryzen Intel should understand that you can't properly cool a pinhead
Jawnys
i upgrade my 7700k at 5.05 ghz to a ryzen 3900x, all i can say is even tho i lost a bit of single core performance, not even that much 218 single core on cine15 to 210 with the 3900x my games dont stutter anymore, and i can stream with a one pc setup without performance loss, my system is running great with a 1080ti, there is no bottleneck or almost none, and with the new console coming with ryzen and navi, im looking forward to the high end gpu, it ll probably be the way to go for gaming for the next 5 years
Denial
kakiharaFRS
Error8
D3M1G0D
This makes sense. Releasing 10nm chips on desktop now would mean a significant step back in clocks, which will drive away consumers. Their 14nm process is still competitive and they can coast on it for a while longer (perhaps they'll release some low power or specialty 10nm chips on desktop in the future, but not gaming chips).
And the owners of Intel CPUs like to think performance is all about emulators and DOSBOX. It's not 😉
All kidding aside, I bought my Ryzen CPUs for their great value and computing performance. I don't even bother to run benchmark apps at all since theoretical numbers mean nothing - what matters is real world performance, and Ryzen certainly delivers (I can show you my computing numbers if you want 😉).
Ricardo
EspHack
cant be true, if it takes them 2-3 more years to bring the heat, ryzen would be +70% of the gaming-desktop market by then
vbetts
Moderator
schmidtbag
barbacot
It's just a rumor denied by intel...
It's open season on rumors...the newest:
JamesSneed
This was simply wccftech making stuff up to get clicks. They didn't even pull the article. They state stuff as rumor what they really mean is they are starting a new rumor with nothing to back it up.