schmidtbag:

Aren't all TR and Epyc platforms ECC-ready? So, couldn't you just buy a barebones server (or just build one yourself) and then get the ECC separately?

anticupidon:

As much as we don't like Intel, we need that they have CPUs on that 7nm. Competition is good for consumers, more offers, lower prices. I hate to say it, but as a homelab geek is kinda hard to find affordable ECC RAM servers on AMD platform. If anyone can show me some links to prove me wrong, go ahead.

jose2016:

We need competition between AMD and Intel so that prices don't skyrocket. Although the one with the best processors will always charge more for them.

Fox2232:

AMD is still tiny minority in laptops. Practically non-existent in tablets. Even while intel got 10~15W chips into tablets. (Atoms officially rated such as 2W SDP = idle operation of OS.) I mean, I can find intel's Rebranded atoms like Pentium Silver N5030, branded as 4C/4T and completely annihilated by AMD's 2C/4T chips. And in very nicely built devices too. Yet, you see AMD's chips mostly in trashtops. Yes, there are great laptops where AMD does well and provides even better value than intel's. But those are mostly gaming ones with dGPU. Yet market demands mainly "ultrabook" like devices. And even while AMD has better chips there too, you do not see better offerings. (If equal device costs much more, it is no better offering.)

tunejunky:

they are coming, and in vast numbers from every oem this is where AMD's advantages in node and uArch come through but remember the lag (in production) of mobile is half again as long as desktop

Fox2232:

AMD is still tiny minority in laptops. Practically non-existent in tablets. Even while intel got 10~15W chips into tablets. (Atoms officially rated such as 2W SDP = idle operation of OS.) I mean, I can find intel's Rebranded atoms like Pentium Silver N5030, branded as 4C/4T and completely annihilated by AMD's 2C/4T chips. And in very nicely built devices too. Yet, you see AMD's chips mostly in trashtops. Yes, there are great laptops where AMD does well and provides even better value than intel's. But those are mostly gaming ones with dGPU. Yet market demands mainly "ultrabook" like devices. And even while AMD has better chips there too, you do not see better offerings. (If equal device costs much more, it is no better offering.)

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

2020 sales were also strong: $ 77.9 billion... Many of us cleaned-up in the past 6-months with AMD stock. Happy times. But now it's Intel's time to come around. All Intel signals are green in corporate and a 'double-whammy' of new generations coming our way this year. Intel's first quarter 2022 earnings call cannot come soon enough. This is where my money or former AMD windfall will be!

anticupidon:

I said affordable ECC platforms. Affordable as in 350-500 eu range one can find a lot of decommissioned Intel servers Xeon based. Epyc and TR are way, way expensive for my budget, if I'll decide to get one.

anticupidon:

Care to give some links or examples. Thanks in advance! I know you want to help, I am looking for aforementioned hardware to buy.

Sixtyfps:

I love the comments and all the AMD fanboy's acting like AMD is some great company. Hardware fanboy's are worse then console fanboy's. I personally want the best CPU in my rig for gaming. I don't care if its AMD or intel I just want the best i can afford at the time. At the end of the day its pure numbers. Right now Intel is still the best for gaming so that is what I have. If you are a gamer like me there is nothing in the CPU market that gets me excited because current chips offer a high end experience with the game that are out. There are no good games that have come out in the last 2 years that have been 100% finished and are quality. AMD has closed the gap on intel which doesn't shock or impress me. New games like watch dogs and Cyber punk can even run at 100 fps with current graphics which I call BS. We have a real problem with games and the development with them coming out half baked. Im glad intel is still making CPUs and working hard at good gaming chip. We just need the GPu market to sort itself out

schmidtbag:

Compared to similar Intel systems, they are affordable. Are you looking for an entire PC for 350-500 eu with ECC support? Because even a non-ECC Ryzen build is going to offer some pretty underwhelming specs for that price, especially if VAT is part of your budget. There are AM4 and 1151v3 motherboards out there with ECC support. That saves a large chunk of change.

kapu:

Alright but only that amd is better for gaming right now. Until rocket lake comes at least.

Freeman:

why? how is it better. Give me a AMD CPU to compare against Intel performance. I see i5-10600k for £233.99 4.1Ghz base clock and it outperforms many AMD's for high prices. So Im pretty noob at choosing Ryzen, please enlighten me. Should I buy Ryzen 5 for 3.6Ghz around £160 and call it a win by saving £75? Should I say ''AMD is so much better'' because of that?

kapu:

It is faster, there isnt much debate on that. I'm not saying anything about prices or performance per $. If you want to know more you should read some guru3d reviews. Apples to apples 5600x beats 10600k. In almost all scenarios. I don't know what you ment by base clock at all. Please clarify

Freeman:

5600x is a great CPU with great base clock speed, but it does cost more. So well done AMD on 4.6Ghz base clock. But we cant say for that 5600x £300 is better than £240 CPU so 'AMD is better'. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X-Six-Core-4.6GHz-Socket-AM4-Processor-Retail-CP-3CC-AM.html?campaign=affiliate/tag&utm_source=pcpartpicker&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=affiliategateway https://www.overclockers.co.uk/intel-core-i5-10600k-4.10ghz-comet-lake-socket-lga1200-processor-retail-cp-67y-in.html

anticupidon:

Guys, let's keep this thread on its original track and intended purpose. Also, let's not forget that neither AMD or Intel are your buddy willing to give you free hardware. Every company has its ups and downs. It's only when manufacturers fight for offering the best price/performance hardware parts when customer can "win". You still pay, but you're likely to get better performance for your money.