We may see 4.7-4.8 on the regular though. On KLX if priced right it will have its market. If it comes in under $300 (probably won't though). Also I would not be surprised if Intel stops production on 7700k when 7740k hits shelves, as to force people on to their HEDT platform if they want to overclock.

On all cores?? Not even close to that number

On all cores?? Not even close to that number

On the 6 and 8 cores I don't see an issue getting those frequencies. We were seeing 4.7 with the IB-E 6 cores.

Dont expect a 12 core SLX to bring 5.0 ghz or something like that, kaby lake X is garbage anyhow a four core on a hedt with dual memory channel support only.. intel being mediocre as usual

I don't expect 5ghz, but I do think Skylake-X will be able to hit 4.5/4.6. Skylake also has a ~5% IPC gain over Broadwell. So I think there is going to be a pretty decent uplift in performance from Intel's current HEDT platform. I also think Intel is going to revise it's pricing with the launch. AMD might be better at price/perf - but I'm not that concerned with pricing. I'm budgeting roughly $1000 for a new mobo/cpu. Whatever I can get that's faster within that budget is what I'm going to get.

This skylake-x can be as well last a decade OR will start the performance battle its like double-edged blade without ryzen-amd move, this skylake-x almost decided (well at least i personaly think)to last like a decaded and the performance still okay in EOL but now with ryzen sparking the cpu battle, somehow forcing intel to move too so things get interesting

4-cores are lacking even today. I've seen Watch Dogs 2 get 100% usage on all 8 threads on your 7700k. In 5 years it will be long obsolete.

i read lot people having issue with 100% cpu usage WD2 except it fully use your GPU too, then something wrong with the game i mean a game that mainly need graphics power but using more cpu than gpu that cant be right, yes? for gaming 4cores should be still good for quite time except developer fully use DX12 and maximize multi-cores potential but again at that time, the optimization should already good... so 100% CPU should not happen in most case

I don't expect 5ghz, but I do think Skylake-X will be able to hit 4.5/4.6. Skylake also has a ~5% IPC gain over Broadwell. So I think there is going to be a pretty decent uplift in performance from Intel's current HEDT platform. I also think Intel is going to revise it's pricing with the launch. AMD might be better at price/perf - but I'm not that concerned with pricing. I'm budgeting roughly $1000 for a new mobo/cpu. Whatever I can get that's faster within that budget is what I'm going to get.

Tbh we dont need 12 core but to hell with it 😀 and i think amd x399 will be 16 and 32 cores 😀

Tbh we dont need 12 core but to hell with it 😀 and i think amd x399 will be 16 and 32 cores 😀

32 cores may only happen with dual socket. I expect 12 and 16 core CPU's.

4-cores are lacking even today. I've seen Watch Dogs 2 get 100% usage on all 8 threads on your 7700k. In 5 years it will be long obsolete.

1080p CPU bottlenecks are Irrelevant In this game since the 7700K Is already pushing well over 110fps average, which Is something Ryzen with It's mighty 8 cores can't reach. That being said, It doesn't matter If the CPU Is at 100% usage at 1080p. No CPU bottleneck at 4K on a 7700K. [youtube]hbZNOq57fww[/youtube]

32 cores may only happen with dual socket. I expect 12 and 16 core CPU's.

64 cores naples are dual socket

Hey Intel board: Fire that old fart CEO and put someone with vision of future.Dammit

Yeah, fire that CEO that made so much money for so many years that Intel could build its own private, manned station on Mars and still have plenty of cash left.

except it fully use your GPU too, then something wrong with the game i mean a game that mainly need graphics power but using more cpu than gpu that cant be right, yes? for gaming 4cores should be still good for quite time except developer fully use DX12 and maximize multi-cores potential but again at that time, the optimization should already good... so 100% CPU should not happen in most case

Studios would rather code haphazardly and produce code that works sufficiently than go through expensive bug hunting, optimisation, and cycles of patch releases. Making a multi-threaded game shouldn't be any problem for any studio today, but making a multi-threaded game that uses the cores effectively seems to be a real challenge. I can't even fully blame the studios considering how much variation there is in the players' PC architecture.

64 cores naples are dual socket

Are all AM44 going to be part of Naples or will there be an HEDT separate from server like Intel does?

Are all AM44 going to be part of Naples or will there be an HEDT separate from server like Intel does?

It seems that the x390 and the x399 chipsets are for amd HEDT Naples based cpu products.. now i just hope that the 44 part is not the number of lanes 😀

The release date is panic not the chip itself, this thing was made to come in 4 months not two and this give merit to the amd x399 hedt platform.. it will be fun

Indeed, it being moved ahead is likely a reaction to the market situation, and hopefully pricing will also be influenced by that. I still believe however that they planned to go with this lineup all along - the last HEDT generations all added a new top-end CPU with more cores. Ivy-E: 4-6 cores HSW-E: 6-8 cores BDW-E: 6-10 cores SKL-X: 6-12 cores With the new consumer platform getting 6 cores, I could see them even cutting 6 core CPUs out of the HEDT lineup eventually (or move it to secondary HEDT line like KBL-X in this case)

Yeah, fire that CEO that made so much money for so many years that Intel could build its own private, manned station on Mars and still have plenty of cash left.

It's not exactly difficult to make so much money when you do what you can to make your competition irrelevant (like Cyrix or VIA) or when your main competitor makes it easy for you to just sit back and do nothing for a half decade (AMD). Krzanich is far from the best CEO. He doesn't know what it's like to lose and as a result, doesn't know how to adapt in such a situation. As for those saying Intel should lower their prices - not gonna happen. Despite the overall positive reception of Ryzen 5, Intel's prices have barely budged, if at all. Despite Ryzen being a better value and overall as good as Kaby Lake, people are still buying Kaby Lake. People have a tendency to buy a name they see everywhere and a name they trust, regardless of how much better or more practical than an alternative may be. People especially like to buy a product from a company simply because it relates to something much better. For example, someone may buy a Mazerati simply because it has a Ferrari engine. A Mazerati is worse than a Ferrari in almost every way, and not a whole lot cheaper. But that engine is so enticing. Replace it with a Dodge engine (even a better one) and I'm sure sales would plummet. All Intel needs to do is make a chip AMD can't outperform. That doesn't mean anybody will buy it, but as long as Intel is known for having the world's fastest [x86] CPU, that's all they need to get people to associate them as the best. Nvidia is no different - nobody needs a Titan and most people can't buy one, but it keeps them and their name on top.

This skylake-x can be as well last a decade OR will start the performance battle its like double-edged blade without ryzen-amd move, this skylake-x almost decided (well at least i personaly think)to last like a decaded and the performance still okay in EOL but now with ryzen sparking the cpu battle, somehow forcing intel to move too so things get interesting

This is one reason that I'm going Ryzen with my next upgrade which will be as soon as the Ryzen ITX boards are released. I do expect nuisance issues from the new platform, but they've changed the CPU and GPU landscape, they've earned my business.

Well the 10-core Core i7-6950X is like 1825 bucks. So for the 12 core part that is 182.5 x 12 = 2190 Euro. Lets call it an even 2K CPU. The Ryzen 7 8-core 1800X is like 525 Euro is 66 Euro per core. So their 12-core part would cost just under 800 bucks. With Ryzen available, honestly I cannot see them increasing prices at all and they might even be lowering their pricing structure, like they have to.

Grinning from ear to ear 🙂

Oh crap I just finished building my new system. Oh well here we go again! :banana:

Know what you mean ha! ha! ha! ha! But its all good for all of us 🙂

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None of the quad gaming tests are run on actual systems that people use. Systems with AV/Office uploaders in the background etc.

Indeed, it being moved ahead is likely a reaction to the market situation, and hopefully pricing will also be influenced by that. I still believe however that they planned to go with this lineup all along - the last HEDT generations all added a new top-end CPU with more cores. Ivy-E: 4-6 cores HSW-E: 6-8 cores BDW-E: 6-10 cores SKL-X: 6-12 cores With the new consumer platform getting 6 cores, I could see them even cutting 6 core CPUs out of the HEDT lineup eventually (or move it to secondary HEDT line like KBL-X in this case)

I agree that x299 was to arrive anyhow but not this soon and KLX is quad core only

Panic reaction? Please, they don't just produce a new 12-core die within a few weeks/months out of "panic", this takes planning for years.

Depending on how its done, that's not even remotely correct.