I bet Intel becomes a player eventually. They have a ton of experience in GPUs, and imo since the intel 4000 series they have had an adequate integrated solution. Ive been able to play Dark Souls, Skyrim, etc on a Surface Pro model 1 since 2013, totally mobile with side attaching controller. Proof people already underestimate what they can deliver.

what they can deliver and do deliver tend to be 2 diffrent things special when it come to gpu. If Intel really wanted to they bury amd and nvidia gpu's just like they could bury amd cpu. they just spent more time and money on marketing and pr imo, this would also lead to very bad things such thing happen these benchs do give hope though, but only if they price it right and not at stupid like intel likes to do

Has any newcomer to a market ever been the top dog on day one? I remember when nVidia released its first cards. They were good but 3dfx was still the better performer. Only a couple years ago AMD's graphics cards were at a similar performance deficit as these intel cards are to nVidia. I bet within 2-3 generations, Intel will be competing with nVidia for fastest graphics cards.

Andrew LB:

Has any newcomer to a market ever been the top dog on day one? I remember when nVidia released its first cards. They were good but 3dfx was still the better performer. Only a couple years ago AMD's graphics cards were at a similar performance deficit as these intel cards are to nVidia. I bet within 2-3 generations, Intel will be competing with nVidia for fastest graphics cards.

It's all going to come down to price / performance. Intel likely has nothing to compete above a 3070 - though I think few buy in that range out in the real world. The problem Intel will have now is how late they are. Then again, sounds like next gen GPUs will be at least 1-2 months late as well.

Undying:

So zen2 or intel 10gen cpu.

Have a setting to enable it on Z370 (beta BIOS, MSI)