Hardware manufacturers removing game branding from AMD products?
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FlyBy
I am no particular AMD fanboy, nor am I am a Nvidia fanboy but what Nvidia does will put some weight on the AMD side if I need to buy again and decide between the two.
I already got 2 x 1600x-Ryzens instead of Intel i7's, 2 years ago it would have been a no-questions-asked-Intel.
Watch out Nvidia, people do not forget. Despite I like your products and Gsync, I dislike your behaviour.
Moral should rule over greed, not other way around.
Fender178
I see no big deal because years ago when we bought graphics cards there was no gaming in the title of the card it self it was sold as either a gaming card (Geforce) (Radeon) or a workstation card (Quadro) (Fire Pro). With Vega AMD made two sets of cards one with just Vega which included developer related technologies in it as well as game mode for those to test out their product and the Radeon Vega which is the gaming card only or was marketed that way. Nvidia did something similar with the most current titan card being sold as some kind of Workstation hybrid card since that card can game and its drivers are part of the Geforce drivers rather than the Quadro.
Ryu5uzaku
This falls in the same category as Intel paying dell and the likes off. Not exactly the same but effect they are trying to create is the same. It's more or less that nvidia went "you wont' get the goodies you have been getting if you do not sign this gpp".
Which kind of seems to cripple AMD on certain AIBs. But it's not like they AIBs have a choice really when faced with something like that. It's simply anti-consumer and anti-competition but hey money.
Embra
Turanis
After Intel aproach very tide with Amd Vega tech,then sudenly nVidia have some fears.This is their response to Amd-Intel tech bonds.
What if:
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Mugsy
S*** move by nvidia and shit move by the AIBs. Those brands were built using products from both nvidia and amd. Not nvidia wants those brands for themselves. I for one won't buy from those AIBs.
fantaskarsef
Noisiv
fantaskarsef
Prince Valiant
H83
So that´s Nvidia´s evil plan? To steal the "gaming" brands from AMD??? Seems a little stupid... It reminds me of some of the stupid plans from the villains in the Bond movies...
Truder
NVidia have essentially soft-patented the word "Gaming".
I can definitely see some anti-competitive and anti-trust lawsuits/measures being taken, particularly by the EU.
fantaskarsef
Truder
vbetts
Moderator
GPP is not the best thing to hit the market, I will admit that. Devils advocate here, but from a business point for the board partners it's a win win situation for them. Really the only people I believe they say they will boycott these board partners, are ones who are mainly team red no matter what.
Full disclosure, I am neither team red or team green. I run with what I believe is the best value.
I'm not saying what is happening is wrong, or this is going to make a huge difference. This isn't stopping Gigabyte or MSI from selling their custom board designs with AMD chips, they just can't use the branding. But I have a couple questions for everyone here.
So for anyone out there that is looking for an nvidia card, and there is say an EVGA(who only sells Nvidia anyway) reference design card, or an ASUS Strix design card are you telling me you're going to pick the reference design over the Strix design? Or say a reference powercolor AMD card, or a custom board design MSI AMD card with higher clocks and better cooling? Or in the case of motherboards, there's only an Asrock a320 board or a Gigabyte X370 board?
Personally, I'm not going to boycott these brands. I use them and I know they're dependable and worth the money(well, MSRP but not current prices).
Angantyr
Denial
Only time I pick a reference design is if I know I'm going to drop water on it as the reference blocks come out first and I couldn't careless about the stock cooler performance. This is especially true the last few generations where the AIB cards with fancy caps and whatnot aren't really getting better clocks than reference anyway.
As for GPP, I would still like to know what's going on behind the scenes before I make a final conclusion but it does seem like some branding changes are happening, most of which are negative for AMD. People keep downplaying branding like it doesn't influence sales but it certainly does. I think the thing that bothers me about the anti-competitiveness of it is that if Nvidia and AMD were 50/50 on marketshare, Nvidia would have never been able to pull something like this off. The AIB Vendors would have either told Nvidia to get bent or would have branded Nvidia cards under new brands, or sub-brands of their gaming variants. If Nvidia really is forcing, not asking but forcing these companies to give up "ROG" and stuff, i do think that's anti-competitive and I don't support it.
airbud7
meanwhile on Facebook a minute ago
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alanm
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