IchimA:

No , please no ! Anything but that ... I remember when I bought 8800Gts for 250 euros or something like this . The 1000 grafic cards are just ridiculous . At least for me

Don't worry, millions of other people would agree.

warlord:

Nolifers capable of disgraceful collection, will always provide for CEO and investors. Not only consumers are not willing to stop purchasing overpriced products, they are begging for more despite the fact of moving pc cost a whole level up from the past. Pitifullnes at its finest IMHO. I'd never purchase expensive overpriced product, first, as a sign of true self respect and secondly, I am spending money wisely to help other potent buyers. I'll not participate to Armageddon. Ever. 980ti is not capable of 1440 at 60fps in latest games anymore, the same with double priced 2080ti is not 4k capable 60 fps in many games nowadays. Tell me a reason to invest a huge amount of money to a dying bleeding hardware. Now I read the article, about gpus becoming even more pricey. Really? Get a life pc peasants. Life is out there. Even CEOs you overpay for their ignorance, they are getting more out of house. 😉

Say what? https://media.giphy.com/media/l0IypeKl9NJhPFMrK/giphy.gif

Nvidia, as the 'RTX' inspired, eye-watering, bar-raising-shenanigan instigator, need to learn the lesson from the greatly reduced 1080/Ti --> 2080/Ti up-graders, that the holy grail concept of "price-to-performance" needs to be adhered to. Mess that up (again) at your peril - you don't want another upgrade cycle, at this performance point, lost - that is, if you give a damn!! Message to AMD: there's a queue/opportunity waiting for a suitable rDNA2 product...please!!

Seems like only politicians are getting cheaper and cheaper, as the time goes by...

GDDR prices aside the entry level GPU is doomed to be merge to CPU anyway. Nvidia has to prepare for a higher standard if they wanna stay relevant.

All hail to the famous generation of "but can it run crysis?". The problem is, those were the people who lead the gaming community to this dead end. These idiotic memes, ironically forged a generation and destroyed another. Enjoy your uttermost failure. 3,000€ pc will be the new mid ranger. 2020 tends to be the decade of declined sales. Consoles are rising for a reason. No hope.

Maybe is time to Chinese government look into this..

It's simple as that!!!! Don't buy it... They gone sell it cheaper...But you gone buy it anyway !!! The same people complaining about it buy "DLC" "Skins" "Precommand" "early acces" are the first to Buy it ! "JUST BOYCOT" those prices....but like allways we gone ear the dumb but classical "i dont give a f*** i've got money ! Why do we have half finished games,because people buy it like this....LMAO why do EA or other will lose time and money by finishing the game,people are dumb enouth to buy it like that ! The entertening industry is in it,people are so dumb,they dont even try to do good art... Movies,music,games...lowest quality possible,people gone buy it anyway! #Bananaonthewall

I dont believe they will much in normal market, current 2080S are actually cheaper then regular 2080's, same by 2070 and 2060..

kings:

No worry, new consoles are coming in 2020. Brands are slowly repelling people from the PC. The GPU market is already a disgrace, with everything extremely inflated. Rising the prices even higher is one more reason to people turn to consoles.

Two issues here: 1. Consoles do use the same DRAM, so they either also get more expensive, or they have to save costs elsewhere. Neither is good. 2. Consoles are no replacement for a PC at all. Hell, no matter how much magic the 2020 Consoles will make happen, any highend 2016+ PC will already have more horses.

Meh, no rush for me to upgrade until late 2020 or early 2021.

TechEnthusiast:

Two issues here: 1. Consoles do use the same DRAM, so they either also get more expensive, or they have to save costs elsewhere. Neither is good. 2. Consoles are no replacement for a PC at all. Hell, no matter how much magic the 2020 Consoles will make happen, any highend 2016+ PC will already have more horses.

I won't mind paying £500 for a PS5. And I'll definitely be buying one. But you can't ignore the fact that some of the console (mainly PS) exclusives look out of this world. And considering that PS5 and the next gen Xbox will use modern hardware, they'll be pushing the envelope. One thing... Give me proper keyboard and mouse support... I know it won't happen. Shame. I'll still be buying PS5 on release though. BTW, 2016 PCs won't have anything on next gen consoles. You're kinda deluded in that respect.

I will be buying both XBOX and PS5 as well, but they won't replace my PC anytime. They can't even replace it for gaming, let alone all the other things I am doing with my PC, including work. And honestly the games do look nice(ish), if you watch screenshots only. But those fancy sub 20 fps on last years games really made my eyes bleed. Get the same game on PC and enjoy 144p144hz at much better settings. Yes it is more expensive (for the hardware anyways), but you get what you pay for, as always in life. If you factor in game prices my most expensive gaming piece is my Nintento Switch btw. And I am running a 9900K and 2080ti on my desktop. Yet the Switch was more expensive while still having hundreds of games more on the PC. Still worth it for the switch, for those amazing couch co-op games when friends are over here for a beer.

TechEnthusiast:

Two issues here: 1. Consoles do use the same DRAM, so they either also get more expensive, or they have to save costs elsewhere. Neither is good. 2. Consoles are no replacement for a PC at all. Hell, no matter how much magic the 2020 Consoles will make happen, any highend 2016+ PC will already have more horses.

Rumors put next-gen XBox and PS5 as using "semi-custom" Octo-Core Zen2 CPU and GPU with more active CU's than current Navi cards..... So, how are systems from 2016 going to be faster?

insp1re2600:

maybe well all be forced onto their streaming services!

Don't even speak of such things! 😱

Though certainly not great news, I nevertheless appreciate this article being posted - thanks Hilbert.

sykozis:

Rumors put next-gen XBox and PS5 as using "semi-custom" Octo-Core Zen2 CPU and GPU with more active CU's than current Navi cards..... So, how are systems from 2016 going to be faster?

Because there is no magic in tech. If they sell a 400 or 500 dollar Console, it will be pretty close to a 500 or 600 dollar PC due to them eating their own margin to make people buy the thing. You get some minor value out of the deal when the consoles launch, but that will be gone a year later, when everyone can just freely buy faster components on Newegg and Amazon, most likely cheaper as well. If you are after a console to replace a gaming PC, you are in a loosing battle from the get go. Games are MUCH more expensive, so the very minor upfront advantage will be eaten up (most likely on day 1, depending on how many games you buy with the new console). Then a PC can do all the other stuff a console can't and (right now) there is nothing a console can do, a PC can't do better. You really only buy a console due to exclusive titles nowadays. Why do you think they spend upwards of 2 digit millions per game, just so the developer don't port their game to more platforms? The good thing is that you stop caring, once you get out of school and get a job to be honest. Yes we are getting screwed over, but some of us are just too lazy to get a HDMI cable from the PC to the living room, so a console is the easier option (while sacrificing plenty of quality, but meh). To get back to the topic tho: It is kind of funny how HBM was the bad move due to pricing. They all claimed GDDR6 was so much cheaper. Now I wonder if a company going HBM as an outlier, while all the others fight over each and every stick of GDDR6, would see a performance AND price win,... How are the current prices for these modules for larger corps?

TechEnthusiast:

Because there is no magic in tech. If they sell a 400 or 500 dollar Console, it will be pretty close to a 500 or 600 dollar PC due to them eating their own margin to make people buy the thing. You get some minor value out of the deal when the consoles launch, but that will be gone a year later, when everyone can just freely buy faster components on Newegg and Amazon, most likely cheaper as well. If you are after a console to replace a gaming PC, you are in a loosing battle from the get go. Games are MUCH more expensive, so the very minor upfront advantage will be eaten up (most likely on day 1, depending on how many games you buy with the new console). Then a PC can do all the other stuff a console can't and (right now) there is nothing a console can do, a PC can't do better. You really only buy a console due to exclusive titles nowadays. Why do you think they spend upwards of 2 digit millions per game, just so the developer don't port their game to more platforms? The good thing is that you stop caring, once you get out of school and get a job to be honest. Yes we are getting screwed over, but some of us are just too lazy to get a HDMI cable from the PC to the living room, so a console is the easier option (while sacrificing plenty of quality, but meh). To get back to the topic tho: It is kind of funny how HBM was the bad move due to pricing. They all claimed GDDR6 was so much cheaper. Now I wonder if a company going HBM as an outlier, while all the others fight over each and every stick of GDDR6, would see a performance AND price win,... How are the current prices for these modules for larger corps?

You are confusing people for people. They are not the same. When you talk Console people, and then you compare pricing to DIY-PC-Builders, you talk about two very different groups with minimal overlap. Most people who would buy console would buy prebuilt PC too. I'll tell you what you can do with $600 PC after 2 years. You can stick it... where Sun does not shine. Hell, it will not be very good upon purchase for modern gaming. But that console you talk about here has life cycle of 5~6 years. And in that time, games will be targeting its hardware. More expensive games? Sure, but that's how it works. Surely not so bad in comparison to slowly upgrading that aging $600 PC every 2 years. - - - - But serious questions here: - What is regular price of PC case you use in systems you build? - What is regular price of cooling (include fans too) you use in systems you build?

I was hoping GPU's would be dropping in price, not going up... Top end is already insanely priced.... might just have to become a retro gamer, or 5 year gamer xD

Ricepudding:

I was hoping GPU's would be dropping in price, not going up... Top end is already insanely priced.... might just have to become a retro gamer, or 5 year gamer xD

Sad state of gaming when midrange gpus cost 400$.

ruthan:

Maybe is time to Chinese government look into this..

you mean the ones who sell Fermi GTX 1060's?

You have to remember that the percentage increase is for the supplier not the end product. I would add another 5% on top of the predicted increase per quarter for the end product. So you are looking at a possible 40% increase for your shiny new gpu with Gddr6 memory by the end of 2020! https://media0.giphy.com/media/xndHaRIcvge5y/giphy.gif