GeForce RTX 4070 and RTX 4090 Founders Edition now have Upgraded Power Connectors
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RavenMaster
Why would they be quietly replacing the original 12VHPWR sockets if the melting problem was caused by 'User error?' Surely this means Nvidia is admitting there is indeed a design flaw with the older version.
They should mass recall the all the 40 series cards with the older sockets and retro-fit them with the new one if they believe they are a fire hazard.
JaxMacFL
I don’t believe they are admitting anything. They are just taking a simple procedure and making it simpler. The vast majority of the consumers have had no problems with the original plug.
cucaulay malkin
recalling a product that works as intended for 99.99% users worldwide would be unreasonable. the og plug is not defective, just hard to click maybe.
Undying
What about 4080 will it also get updated connector?
cucaulay malkin
dunno why not.
TheDeeGee
No thanks, i'll keep my 4070 Ti as is. PNY is using high quality connectors on the PCB, it's fitting very very snug for me and can't be wiggled out.
And both the original adapter as well as my new Seasonic cable show the same 12.3v for the 12VHPWR.
TheDeeGee
Indeed, ever since the plugging in issue was covered by media the meltings stopped.
Only cables from CableMod are still melting, cuz they have 3mm of wiggle room, they seem to be using poor quality connectors.
nevcairiel
You can still improve a product and reduce risk of failure, even if the failure can be avoided by proper use. In fact, thats common practice in big parts of the industry. Many products have improved safety margins in newer versions, does that admit that previous versions were inadequate, or are newer versions just better?
There haven't even been any number of reports of the issue occuring anymore. The latest wave of it was on CableMod connectors only, which is especially hilarious since they claim to have designed them to fix that problem.
schmidtbag
Came here to say the same thing.
As stated before in previous threads: the connector should have had a lot greater tolerances. It should have been able to handle a lot more power even if something wasn't 100% tightly connected. Again - if it clicked into place, that should have been sufficient.
rl66
So in the end: It was the connector
I am pretty sure they would have spend less money if NVidia would have listen more the user feedback instead of the "it is due to user's malfonction" argument lol.
Due to that and the too high price the RTX40*0 is not a hit as it should be.
TheDeeGee
It wasn't because after the bad plugging in media attention the meltings stopped.
rl66
It is not what our contact in ASUS, MSI and Gigabyte said when we send back deficient GPU...
Anyway, people now watch how much their rig will consume, due to the near +100% electricity cost (and more anounced for 2025 🙁 thank you EU 🙁 )... putting a sticker "brand new 600W plug" on a GPU box isn"t a good point for sale.
Krizby
LOL, Mindfactory have RMA rate listed and 4090 has a typical RMA rate (for highest end GPU)
Most sold rtx 4090 model has RMA rate of 1.26% (Palit), link
Most sold 7900XTX model has RMA rate of 1.75% (XFX), link
The thing with highest end GPUs is that people like to overclock the crap outta them for some internet points, and that's why highest end GPU usually have higher failure rate.
Wouldn't surprise me when people flash their 4090 with XOC bios and run them at 600W+
schmidtbag
The knee-jerk reaction of cramming the connector in tighter and ziptying it in place so it doesn't burn does not suggest the connector isn't at fault. Reminds me of the days when the iPhone 4 would drop calls depending on the way you would hold it, with the suggestion of "don't hold it that way" as if the device wasn't faulty and the user is expected to compensate, when in reality, it shouldn't have had the problem in the first place.
If tightening a power connector a millimeter (or perhaps less) is the difference between it burning, it is objectively a bad design. This is especially true if the power being drawn is below the rated spec, since these connectors ought to have much higher tolerances than they're rated for.
fantaskarsef
Also probably people buying 4090s and 7900XTXs are the ones that worry the most about best overclocks and least coil whine in the first place.
Naturally, also, the return rates because of both might not be as high with lower tier cards because people just don't expect that much out of e.g. a 4060Ti or lower tier AMD card, and naturally suffer less from coil whine.
tsunami231
will this one actual have nice snug connector or will be jiggle fest all over?
TheDeeGee
I think it depends who the vendor is.
Zero complains with the one on my PNY card, it's a press fit unlike the traditional 8-Pin.
