Kinda weird how they seem to be cannibalizing their own sales. The 2070 Super is pretty damn good compared to the 2080. If they had a GTX 1770 (or whatever it'd be called) that was basically the 2070 Super without RTX for a $100 price drop, I'd be very enticed to get that.

schmidtbag:

Kinda weird how they seem to be cannibalizing their own sales. The 2070 Super is pretty damn good compared to the 2080.

It´s only momentary, the RTX 2080 will leave the market to be replaced by the RTX 2080 Super in a few weeks!

they look pretty good over the first rtx cards no dought

BReal85:

Great? LOL. Say "better than the old RTXs". But it's far from great.

I mean 2070S 😉 (1080Ti Level of performance for 1/3 less)

Yeah, i am not going to waste my time with the minor upgrades of turing... ampere better deliver a worth while upgrade...

It's nice to see the "60" model that's faster than last gens "70" model and has at least the matching amount of ram finally. Price is a still a bit high though.

So still no upgrade worth it for us 1080ti users, unless we go RTX 2080 ti :-(

Webhiker:

So still no upgrade worth it for us 1080ti users, unless we go RTX 2080 ti :-(

I feel this is more to get Maxwell users.

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Navi 5700 and 5700XT will offer similiar performance as these super cards. It all comes down to pricing and features. Somehow whatever nvidia do rtx cards are still not interesting. Gtx turing cards are even worse.

2070S looks a bit better now, same price/aka improved price/performance which was by far the biggest issue with that card. Kinda ruined the 2060 with the S variant tho, lower price performance for their entry level card doesn't seem like a wise choice.

A wise move by Nvidia but still not that appealing, pricing could’ve been better. Hopefully the 2080 Super will come relatively close to the 2080 TI, now that would be interesting.

Undying:

Navi 5700 and 5700XT will offer similiar performance as these super cards. It all comes down to pricing and features. Somehow whatever nvidia do rtx cards are still not interesting. Gtx turing cards are even worse.

What? The 2060S is faster than the now defunct 2070 by about 2-5% that puts it head to head in DX12 (minus the BF5 outliers) and winning in DX11 against the $449 5700xt. The 2070S will destroy the 5700xt 50th for the same price. So no AMD will offer lower performance for more or the same money. Navi, as much as I like where it is headed, looks like it's DOA with it current prices.

schmidtbag:

Kinda weird how they seem to be cannibalizing their own sales. The 2070 Super is pretty damn good compared to the 2080. If they had a GTX 1770 (or whatever it'd be called) that was basically the 2070 Super without RTX for a $100 price drop, I'd be very enticed to get that.

What sales?

NVIDIA Reports 45% Revenue Drop in Gaming Sales, Cites Lower Than Expected Sales of GeForce RTX 2080 and GeForce RTX 2070 Graphics Cards In the details shared by NVIDIA, the market to market revenue chart shows that Gaming was able to make $954 million in Q4 FY19 compared to $1764 million in the previous quarter. Not only does that make it a 46% decline from the previous quarter, but looking at Year-To-Year results, NVIDIA also saw a 45% decline.

They are loosing sales to their ridiculous pricing scheme. And will continue to loose them (imho) until something mainstream like 2060 gets back to ~250$ range instead of trying to be the 400$ part. No one cares for ray tracing, especially on card like 2060 that can't even do it properly. PS. We as customers SHOULD NOT CARE about how much money nVidia (or anyone else for that matter) invested into the tech. That's their problem.

If only the 2070's was like 50-70$ less, they'd be in the right spot imo. I know they probably have have to charge this price due to RD/production cost of the (currently) rather fluff Tensor/RT cores, which i think they should have kept as a premium choice only aka. on the 2080+ cards until it matured and becomes mainstream. As it is, i'll likely (praying to the AMD gods) be going with 5700xt/5800 depending on the price/performance it settles at. And then a question to those that are tech-savvy: the TDP... what would happen to the 'normal' 2070 if it was allowed +40 watt ?. I assume the architecture of the 2 cards are similar, or is it the extra transistors that calls for that extra TDP (maybe a silly question, NOT that technical minded... )

Webhiker:

So still no upgrade worth it for us 1080ti users, unless we go RTX 2080 ti :-(

Ampere! that's what i am waiting for.

Kinda makes me upset. I purchased my 2070 a lil b4 the Supers where popping up in rumors. So now a 2060S is faster(in most cases) than my 2070 and cheaper???? I feel raped!!! 😱

blitz72:

Kinda makes me upset. I purchased my 2070 a lil b4 the Supers where popping up in rumors. So now a 2060S is faster(in most cases) than my 2070 and cheaper???? I feel raped!!! 😱

Did you felt the presence of a leather jacket behind you???Then you were... Anyway in my opinion 2070 Super is a great deal. And by looking at the RTX On Metro Exodus WQHD 49 fps is not bad at all.

This has been a disappointing year for GPU's all around. The only card that has any interest for current 1080Ti owners who haven't already upgraded to a 2080Ti due to pricing is the 2080 Super. I'm not jumping on that ship this late in the product life cycle and will wait it out until next gen. These cards should have had these prices at the beginning of the RTX launch, but it feels way too little and too late at this point. Just my opinion. I'm sure the super release will make some folks happy.

Dazz:

Well thats depressing that the RTX270 Super is almost as fast as my RTX2080 at like nearly 40% less in less than 6 months.

People always say this, yet people who actually buy the cards almost never say this, why would anyone want progress to not...progress? Either way it's not "less than 6 months" RTX 2080 was released 9 and a half months ago, and by the time the RTX 2080 super is released (since it's not yet, releases on the 23rd according to the article) it'd be just over 10 months.

gx-x:

PS. We as customers SHOULD NOT CARE about how much money nVidia (or anyone else for that matter) invested into the tech. That's their problem.

That makes zero sense. Basically you're saying: We as customers want it all, better performance, better technology, innovation, BUT! we don't want to pay for it! As consumers we ALWAYS care about how much it takes to make a product because it determines what the price is, that IS for us to care for. And if we don't like the price, then we don't buy it, but if a company gives you something that is far beyond what other companies are giving you but costs more, it's your decision. It's always the customers decision to decide if a company made the right call or not, and to buy or not. What's next, are you going to go to Tesla and say "Hey this car that costs $60,000 to make, let alone R&D, yeah you're going to give it to me for $25,000, because i don't care about your costs".........right...... Companies have resource costs and R&D costs, and you can either deal with that fact, or live in some LaLa land.