Actually Robbo, Bobbo 😉 He has made statements to this effect on previous occasions and they are usually pretty accurate, he is also in a much better position than most of us when it comes to access to that type of info. I know you'd like to see a relatively cheap high performance card (so would I) but sadly, for some people it works like this: 'If it's not true, then it should be' 😉

The last 3 times nVidia released a new architecture, we saw these exact same arguments. There was always someone who claimed to be "In the know", stating that it wasn't going to be much faster. I remember two architectures ago, people kept quoting Charlie Demerjian, while forgetting that his great insider knowledge was continually proven wrong. So much in fact that he made a bet with some Intel executives and ended up having to spend a weekend at a trade convention wearing a pink rabbit suit. lol. Sorry.. back on topic. The point was, the last 3 architecures nVidia pretty much surprised everyone and their cards did better than what most of us said they'd do. nVidia is not going to fall asleep like they did years ago and risk AMD pulling ahead with an actual clear lead. My prediction is 10-25% faster than the 780ti depending on the benchmark. This is mostly due to the highly efficient Maxwell architecure and it's changes that allow it to do much more with less bandwidth.

Actually Robbo, Bobbo 😀 He has made statements to this effect on previous occasions and they are usually pretty accurate, he is also in a much better position than most of us when it comes to access to that type of info. I know you'd like to see a relatively cheap high performance card (so would I) but sadly, for some people it works like this: 'If it's not true, then it should be' 😉

The last 3 times nVidia released a new architecture, we saw these exact same arguments. There was always someone who claimed to be "In the know", stating that it wasn't going to be much faster. I remember two architectures ago, people kept quoting Charlie Demerjian, while forgetting that his great insider knowledge was continually proven wrong. So much in fact that he made a bet with some Intel executives and ended up having to spend a weekend at a trade convention wearing a pink rabbit suit. lol. Sorry.. back on topic. The point was, the last 3 architecures nVidia pretty much surprised everyone and their cards did better than what most of us said they'd do. nVidia is not going to fall asleep like they did years ago and risk AMD pulling ahead with an actual clear lead. My prediction is 10-25% faster than the 780ti depending on the benchmark. This is mostly due to the highly efficient Maxwell architecure and it's changes that allow it to do much more with less bandwidth.

ROFL - Nope. Gibbo has already alluded to the performance and I would trust what he says a lot more than you or Nvidia's slides tbh. And JFYI, if it's 25% faster than a Ti, you can kiss your dreams of a $500.00 card goodbye and say hello to $800 (or more).

Soooooo: http://www.redgamingtech.com/nvidias...-coming-later/ "Nvidia’s GTX 980 Maxwell Slower Than GTX 780 Ti & 8GB Model Coming Later" and Gibbo's the source. Ah the wonderful world of tech "journalism".

I posted speculating and then all these journalist take it as factual, lol.

Also, I chuckle @ people thinking a new flagship isn't going to be faster than the old one. Even further chuckling @ people thinking that every flagship generation is supposed to be more expensive. And finally, laughter @ people who don't do their research to learn that Gibbo admits it was complete speculation on his part and not based on any internal knowledge or leaks as to his performance/pricing guesses: I'm sure you won't be back to admit you were wrong, let alone apologize for your shameless sarcastic trolling, though. Ta-ta! :stewpid: By the way, the GTX 680 launch says "sup bro".

Really I do not know why you would argue the performance only if we are still using the 750/ti to compare on what sorta "gains" they could have made. You just have to think it would sip less power or at least I think it would and that can be good for the stock clock setting out of the box Then I mean its almost a no brainer to say its coming with walking on eggshell power management hardware like the 680's and to boot ic's might not be writable. And staying with the 750 school of thought it should run cool but that goes into the whole power speculation thing. Anyways since we are all pissing in the wind speculating . I think its going to be the g80 to g92 experience,less bus but same'ish performance do to stock boost clocks and yes it was a lot cheaper then the 88gtx.so really does it make a difference if the cards is a tad slower then the 780ti but has everything else going for it? And say what you want between them 2 cards but the 98's clocked like mad over the g80's

Yah, I really shouldn't be indulging in the 'pee cyclone' but I am trying to avoid playing 'The Last of Us' as I don't want it to end so I figured I'd come on here and waste some time 😉

Getting caught up in the pee cyclone don't make us bad guys you know.

I certainly was not trolling but I'll stand by what I said and if I'm wrong, it won't be the first time, or the last. Equally, I never claimed what Gibbo stated was gospel, I said I'd take his speculation over yours (based on past experience) and that stands as well Just a quick recap, ~$500.00 card will be at best 10% faster than what's out there now and if it is 25%, I'll go as low as $750 USD but I doubt we are getting a card with an extra GB of VRAM and 25% more performance for less than a 780Ti. Let's not forget that we are dealing with a company that priced it's latest dual GPU card at over twice the price of the competitor even though the competitor outperforms it almost across the board. http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/184216-nvidias-3000-titan-z-takes-on-the-1500-radeon-r9-295x2-and-gets-crushed PS: I sincerely hope you're right and Nvidia does release a card that is significantly cheaper, 25% faster and with more memory than a 780Ti, I'll be first in line.

While we'll see on the actual release what it turns out to be, I wanted to apologize for calling you out as trolling when it's obvious from this post you hadn't intended your original that way 🙂. Cheers, friend.