Geekbench of Intel Core i7-12700 Matches the Ryzen 7 5800X
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Caesar
Any comments from Ryzenians?:p
DannyD
I7 twelve seven hundred tell me that doesn't have a ring to it.
i7 12700k, ooh i like the sound of that maybe jump on this one, especially as cpu prices these days are pretty good all things considered.
I hate building from ground up tho, too damn stressful.
Undying
Here it comes : these score are lower than expected and maching 5800x wont be enough.
This reminds me rocket lake first rumors of beating zen3 and we all know what happened next.
Horus-Anhur
I wonder if AMD knew about the performance of Alder Lake, so they decided that to put it against Zen3+ with v-cache, instead of using Zen4 right away.
D1stRU3T0R
yes? Intel future CPU is as good as an imediately "last gen" Ryzen. Upgrades people, upgrades.
Smart idea, but bad for us. Why release something new when the competition can't even match your "old gen". When they get up, just release "improved" Zen4 under the Zen4 name.
insp1re2600
a new cpu beats a year old cpu in the same catagory? not really surprising, id be more worried if it didnt.
mackintosh
I suppose the adage of not buying into first gen anything still holds true. Looks like we won't be getting proper upgrades at least until Q4 2022. I expected more of this new arch straight out the gate tbh. Still, as with everything else, I'll wait until Hilbert's review.
Silva
Don't be boring.
I have a 2600 and I'm all in for Intel new CPUs as AMD 5000 series is expensive af and 3000 never dropped price like the 2000 did.
I have no problem jumping ship again if price/performance is there for when I need it.
Competition is the best a consumer can wish for, fanboys are just dumb if they don't mind paying whatever a company asks them for a product.
Undying
Lisa see right through them and she is one step ahead. :P
H83
I still think that the little/big setup doesn´t make sense to desktops, specially after reading that it needs to be properly supported by the OS.
I think Intel is increasing complexity for nothing, but maybe i´m wrong.
Anyway, i can´t get excited about the new Intel CPUs.
DannyD
I managed to skip 11th gen but a nice 12700k with perhaps a lil 6600xt sounds fun. I've not the know-how to tweak an amd cpu but a gpu maybe.
Netherwind
New thing is faster than old thing = great. As always, price will be an important factor to consider.
AsiJu
Next gen Intel matches current gen Ryzen, not much to comment there.
Also a proper Intelian should know benchmarks aren't "real-world usage"...
It's how fast you can open dat Excel file that matters.
alanm
Not impressive. But if $299, will certainly be impressive. So all depends on price.
mackintosh
Good point. If Intel price this aggressively they will have a real winner on their hands.
Undying
10700/11700 are priced very aggreasively right now and 5800x still outsels them at premium price
Webhiker
If this is the case. Then the smartest move from AMD would be to make the Zen 3+ AM4 compatible and not release it with AM5.
fantaskarsef
They simply did to Intel and CPUs what Nvidia usually does to AMD and GPUs.
Kaarme
When AMD couldn't compete during the decade of degeneration, Intel didn't really bother to develop anything but the production technology. Intel has found it hard to compete with Ryzen due to that negligence, but nobody sane would certainly wish for a future where Intel can't compete for many years, making AMD, in turn, turn lazy. We need a situation with two strong competitors, who all the time turn the tables. Well, three would be even better, but unfortunately it's impossible for the current x86-64 environment. At least that might happen in the GPU market.
wavetrex
If they do release Zen 3 V-Cache it will definitely be for AM4, because AM5 requires the complete new I/O die with the DDR5 memory controller, USB4, etc.
Zen4 is AM5 with all new I/O
