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XBEAST
Why are you showing us last year's charts?
Pill Monster
It's exactly the same as yours only without the newer cards added.
Your graph compared 7900 cards benched over a year ago using old drivers to new Nvidia releases with drivers better optimized for the games used in the benchmark tests.
The second screenshot is just to illustrate overclocking potential of the 7950....
XBEAST
What gave you that idea?
Review published on July 31st, 2013. Running on Haswell rig with 13.6 Beta 2 and 320.18 WHQL/320.39 Beta. Has some new AMD Gaming Evolved titles included as well...
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These kinda threads (vs) always gives me a laugh
eclap
are you honestly trying to tell me that a 7950 is only 4% faster than the gtx 580? because that is what your chart says. Also, I had a gtx 480 overclocked past the gtx 580 stock performance and my 7950 murders it even at stock.
Loophole35
An 800Mhz 7950 yeah I could believe that.
Pill Monster
I don't even.... :3eyes:
Is that a serious question?
Edit: I'll assume you're being genuine;
TPU last benched a 7900 back in October 2012.
Review sites do not benchmark 30 different cards every time a vendor sends them a new product for testing, that would take an incredibly long time.
Also the sample GPU's are usually loaned out for testing purposes only and must be returned.
The competing 6xx/7xx Nvidia cards were tested all the way up until a couple of months ago, so that's roughly 6mths or so between the 7950 and 660Ti (for example.)
Obviously that's going to skew the results somewhat.....but we really don't need benchmarks in this case and tbh you're flogging a dead horse.
There's no other reason for u to bring this up other than to be argumentative since there are over 9000 forum threads on the subject.
Yep they give me something too..... :bang: :bonk::bonk::bonk:
boboftw
Awesome info. I'm assuming I should avoid the cards with only 1 fan. From what I read around the internet, I should only be looking at cards made by HIS, Sapphire and MSI? Also, I'm assuming I shouldn't get the OC version b/c the 7950 OC so well?
Thanks again!
Pill Monster
Wat OC brand do you mean?
MSI or Sapphire are good. HIS not so much.
I think Darkest?? said his MSI TF was noisy but he has a good overclock like 1200mhz so yeah...lol
Sapphire are AMD's No1 board partner and I'm quite bias towards them.
This will give you an idea of what's available. Avoid any with 800-900 max clocks they are rev 1 cards. Rev 2 are all around 950mhz. GA just released one with 1000mhz lol.
eclap
HIS IceQ x2 Boost is one of the top 7950 out there in fact, I would put it alongside the Vapor-X. Every review will tell you that. Also, HIS have been an AMD partner for absolute ages and always had rock solid products.
Loophole35
Look for ones that say boost clock in their description as those are the rev.2
eclap
well, my 7950 boosts to 950mhz at default so maybe that's why. Anyway, who runs their 7950 at 800mhz, right?
Loophole35
I don't know but every time i see just 7950 in the chart i always assume a 800Mhz reference card and disregard the number.
eclap
Yeah, all those 7950 stock numbers are from when the card was new, ran 800mhz and crap drivers.
I always check the 7970ghz performance in charts and add a couple of frames to roughly get what my 7950 performs like. a 800mhz 7950 is no slouch, but it's so far from what it performs like in real world after overclocking.
Pill Monster
Cheapest good 7970Ghz $364 on the egg http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600100181%20600286767%20600007797%20600356257&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=100
Cheapest 7950 $220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600100181%20600286767%20600007797%20600286739&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=100
Or a bit more for a VaporX or TF $260
$100 difference.....
EDIT: had wrong price, should've been $260...
Pill Monster
They are crap
The 7970 IQ has a 6 phase VRM config and the 7950 IQ uses old Elpida chips to save money.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/his-iceq-x2-7970-7950-7850_4.html#sect0
ww.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/his-iceq-x2-7970-7950-7850_2.html#sect0
eclap
nah, not worth it imo either.
eclap
vram overclocking doesn't yield much performance at all, plus most of elpidas will hit 1500mhz. Am I reading it wrong or do both of those cards (7970/7950) have 6 phase VRM config?
EDIT: lol, ninja edits 🙂 anyway, nothing wrong with 6 phase VRM config, is there? It's better than reference cards have (4 for 7950 and 5 for 7970).
Pill Monster
No but it does reflect on the overall quality. Elpida's don't OC at all that's why they're unpopular - Even Hilbert only managed 1350mhz. I'd hate to think Sapphire were still using Elpida chips, I hope they aren't.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_page/his_radeon_7950_x_iceq_review,21.html
And yep they are both 6 phase in the pic....
eclap
TPU got 1500 out of the vram http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7950_X2_Boost/31.html
still, it's a great card, and I'm sure they will all do 1400 on the vram. the core overclocks well on them, they run quiet and cool. for the price they're amazing. Oh, my Vapor-X isn't stable at 1500mhz in all games on the vram. So there you have it, it's not all that straight forward.
