Epic accuses Apple of exercising complete control over iOS
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entr0cks
Interesting, it's Apple's creation on their phones, I mean, why wouldn't they. And people are buying their devices regardless.
On a smaller scale would be nonsense. But with these bigger-than-nations companies...
Epic's just poking around, trying to gain ground.
mackintosh
What's the iOS market share, again? 15%? I'm not a fan of Apple's, and I'm all for going after monopolies, but this is ridiculous.
Denial
Kaarme
Apple is also being accused by the EU for making music streaming harder for competitors, with Spotify used as an example victim. So, Epic is not fighting alone, and I'd say the EU is a harder nut for Apple to crack than Epic. Especially since Apple isn't treated with nearly as much veneration in Europe, compared to the USA.
phoenixdot
I think Apple will win this case since they sold their phone with iOS as SAS where the customer even sign the term and agreement before using it, which mean even the customer is releasing their right for having another option to purchase an app for their own phone. No one forcing Epic to create game for iOS or Android, and play store is actually is not even mandatory if Epic want to create their own Android branch version (Samsung, Huawei and Xiaomi have their own in-app store). If I were Epic I rather investing the money on Asus to create my own gaming phone and Android OS specifically for Fortnite rather than spending it for legal battle that I definitely would lose XD
(Please don't take this comment seriously)
Agonist
Personally screw Apple. Everything is so locked down and anti competitive.
H83
Is Epic really surprised that Apple, the creators and owners of IOS, exercise complete control over it?...
What do they think is the point of IOS, to give money to other companies instead of Apple?...
I really hate to see big companies like Epic pretending to be this stupid/naive and of being the victims of the bogeyman...
And i don´t say this as someone who agrees with the BS of Apple but one thing is true, no one is forced to join their closed system.
schmidtbag
What an absurd statement. Yeah, obviously Apple has full control over the store and ecosystem that they designed, built, and operate. Like them or not, Apple is well within their right to do things the way they do them.
This is like the equivalent of Epic, dressed up in a t-shirt and shorts, trying to get into a black tie nightclub for free where Apple (the bouncer, or whatever the term is called when it's "fancy") denies access. Epic then challenges Apple to a fight, because when you're in the wrong and want to win anyway, you take what you want by force.
Is it fair for Apple to be so greedy and restricting? No, of course not. But they're well within their right to do so. Being greedy in and of itself isn't a crime. Life being unfair is just reality.
Exodite
Kaarme
Loobyluggs
schmidtbag
Loobyluggs
A) yup
B) Then, you must concede that the rules also allow for anyone to take you to court for any reason. And that case must be heard.
C) Oh, it's worse than that. Too much to list here, run a few searches on how companies that are IP-rich, shuffle money around the planet, by operating different companies as a quasi-conglomerate which own different elements of IP. This money has not actually "landed" yet, on any one tax system, and just waits for a law to apply to a country somewhere which allows them to not pay tax. It's very interesting how these tech companies (typically the ones with the most IP) are shuffling their money about in the billions, yet, "Bobs computer shop" has to pay 30%...up front...
You say point A only...hard to say at the moment, but Epic are backed by some serious cash, and this court case will probably go all the way.
schmidtbag
tsunami231
seriously it there OS they dont have right for complete over it? Law suit in states are just ridulous
If apple is force to open there store to allow APP to have ther OWN APP STORE iOS will becoming as bad and Andriod in reguards malware and virus which. the fact iOS isnt like selling point for alot people seing it more secure in that regard
I will never use Mobile device that use Windows cause yay just no. Next windows Android is next worse in regard to malware and virus.
Apple full control over atlest less likely cuase it has to get pass them in firstplace. which less likely then if what ill happen if anyone can open app store on iOS.
waltc3
I hope EPIC succeeds in opening up Apple's closed shop as consumers stand only to benefit. Apple's position is simply this: it reserves the right not to have to compete whenever it can. I don't own an Apple product, and likely I never will, thankfully. My disdain for the company goes back thirty years.
Kool64
I've had an iPhone since 2007(before the app store even) When Androids at the time had their infancy in games and what not. I still don't miss the Android openness because there is little I would want to do on a small phone screen.
schmidtbag
Kaarme
Kool64