Elon Musk Calls App Store Fees a "Global Internet Tax" and Sides With Epic Games
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DarkQuark
Many people think Elon Musk is a genius. What he is (in my opinion) is a marketing genius.
Denial
Moto_Life
"Fortnite accounted for only 10% of the company's overall income" Only? Its a staggering amount of money when you consider their overall income...
stereoman
Well considering Blackrock and Vanguard own Apple and Epic Games none of this means anything.
Airbud
Dear Elon Musk
Imagine Apple as a Faraway planet....if you visit, you must abide by their rules...otherwise don't go there.
Best regards, Airbud.
schmidtbag
Musk isn't wrong but Apple's response is a fair one: if you don't like it, leave. I practice what I preach - I don't give money to companies that abuse their position or are funding the wrong people. I have never bought an Apple product, I never will, and I often discourage people from doing so as well. None of that changes the fact it's their right to charge whatever they want and regulate what ends up in their marketplace. I'm so sick of this "I don't like this and therefore you need to stop doing it" attitude. How about find real problems to worry about, that are actually immoral and/or a threat to you? If you are an app developer for iOS, either suck it up, move to a different marketplace, or reflect upon your career path. Much like literal taxes, you're either paying for a better environment, or, you're paying for desirability. Apple's marketplace is both, which is why developers keep supporting them despite the significant losses and wrist-slapping.
Dribble
tunejunky
i've owned Apple products since the 80's
i still own Apple products, but i am platform agnostic. which goes against Apple's plans as they've moved away from the hardware geek to a plug n play ethos that started back with the Mac.
this forum is going to be one of their hardest audiences...
i don't believe the app store is a tax as much as a controlling gatekeeper screwing with "my stuff".
schmidtbag
waltc3
I think everyone should dump Apple for general computing--the company has nothing to offer--backwards hardware and software compatibility are the last things Apple thinks about for its Mac business and customers. The cult leader is dead and so at least all of that nonsense is over and done. Most of Apple is devoted to cell phones, as cell-phones make up 90% of Apple's income! Basically, Apple really doesn't care about its Mac business these days--that's strictly small-time these days. Cook still gives lip service to the Mac but isn't remotely interested in making competitive products. Apple's attitude for the Mac has never been more "take it or leave it, we don't care!" than it is today. Little wonder: Apple simply doesn't even need a Mac business to survive and prosper. The company's Mac business is all about n00bs--always has been--gouging the gullible and the inexperienced is Apple's habit. Being overcharged and underserved is the forte' of Apple's Mac business, and Apple is particularly good at doing both. Kind of amusing to think that Apple has "transitioned" away from the Mac almost entirely...;) Apple loves its transitions. Hard Pass.
tunejunky
alanm
5 years ago when Tesla was struggling, Musk asked Apple CEO Tim Cook if Apple interested in buying Tesla. Cook refused to meet. Tesla was then 6% of its current value.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1421150913075503112?s=20
Good thing Tesla worked out for him. Thing I love about Musk is he is very self-driven and doesnt give a crap about what others may think about him or his unconventional business style. He'll smoke weed in interviews on YT or jump into very risky ventures (Space-X) or just say stuff that roils the markets or upsets ppl. Almost undisciplined, but I admire that.
fantaskarsef
This is hilarious. If he really became the CEO of Apple, he'd just so defend the app store cut model in a way he does now condemn it.
Oh, and EPIC charges that "tax" as well. Is that right, just because it 's less than Apple's? If it's not, Musk should stay true and say that Epic's not better, just because they charge less.
And by the way, this is none of his business anyway. There's courts who will decide how this is handled, Musk's tweets usually are just kindling more flames for amusement. So are his rambles just an opinion, or is he deliberately and with intention manipulating public opinions and markets for his own agenda? No one will ever know for sure (not even him).
Even worse, when people follow his sayings undifferentiated, and without forming their own opinion which may or may not correlate with Musk's.
But imagining Sweeney and Musk now both sitting next to each other, complaining about app store cuts... this picture just reduces both of their credibility for me. Just my opinion.
alanm
rl66
RealNC
So I decided to go back and calculate the total amount of money Apple has gotten from me in the last 14 years.
* tip tap tip tap tap tap tippidy tap scribble scribble *
$0.0
alanm
Denial
alanm
But now Samsung has announced increased prices due to the chip shortage crisis.
Chart a few months out of date but pretty sure things have not changed much in terms of TSMC 2021 allocations:
https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/02/08/apple-tsmc-5nm-chips-2021/
Yes, more foundries are being built, but will need a few more years to get on stream. In the meantime, prices go up.
TSMC has been auctioning off some of its production to the highest bidders. Apple easily outbids others while passing off the increased cost to its consumers. Why do you think Nvidia went to Samsung for their Ampere chips? FuriousAngel