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Soon they will clear your bank accounts claiming its for your safety
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So low from Avira. But nowadays seems that a lot of companies don't care anymore about customers.
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When in Rome 😡
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Used Avira from 2006 to 2021 religiously on my computers and I recommended to friends. The Free version always made an great work being light. Unfortunately on the last 2 years it started to include more and more services on the background and started to lose focus on what was in the past. I finally discarded it for good on last year. Is sad how a great product becomes so bad. Nowadays is just Defender, disabled most of the time.
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James Frazer:

It's been a number of years since I looked in to Antivirus and Malware software... So what do people recommend these days, I just want to see if things have changed much.
I've never really recommended any AV, but I would commonly use Kaspersky's live recovery CD to disinfect PCs. Most of the time, it caught almost everything, and it was free to use. Kaspersky in Windows was just a little too bloated and expensive for me to ever recommend to people.
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Not saying it's right but you do have to jump through a few hoops to enable it if you wanted it
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James Frazer:

It's been a number of years since I looked in to Antivirus and Malware software... So what do people recommend these days, I just want to see if things have changed much.
Common sense
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Cheers for the comments people. Pretty much as I thought. I'll see you all in a similar thread in another 5-8 years. 🙂
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James Frazer:

It's been a number of years since I looked in to Antivirus and Malware software... So what do people recommend these days, I just want to see if things have changed much.
I believe Kaspersky is very high up on how well it defends you against almost everything, with an extremely light foot print.
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What's next? Virus NFT's? Making you happy to own a receipt for "ILOVEYOU"?
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Next they'll sell the keys to the software as NFTs.
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rflair:

Windows Defender looks better and better everyday.
It is regularly placing in the top of antivirus solutions. I haven't used other than it for years and years - most normal users will only ever be infected with things if they themselves install the virus. Or they give away their login info somehow, lose it in a data-breach, get phished. In the (now a days - warez are a thing of the past (almost)), extremely rare cases were I have something that I deem suspect, I run it in a VM first, see what happens. I also work at a large hosting and service provider company and we generally only use Windows Defender solution going forward for all servers. There's stragglers running on f-secure, but that's maybe a few hundred servers. Compared to the thousands running Defender.
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Been using Avira free for years, the Crypto appeared a few months ago now, but its optional, so no biggie. If that ever changes, then its dumped.
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Keitosha:

What's next? Virus NFT's? Making you happy to own a receipt for "ILOVEYOU"?
Oh, btw to all guru's, if you want to see the funniest thing you have ever seen, you gotta see the recent South Park 'post-covid' episodes, wherein Butters (in the future) has become one of the most dangerous people in the world for selling NFT's. You have been warned.:p
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I remember the days when AV software was to scan and protect against viruses, now it's try our VPN, try our password manager, try our PC disk cleaner, try our browser that's just chrome with a few tweaks and sends your data to us, etc etc
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@reix2x lol. guess you also use the seatbelt only prior to an accident, right? having a proper av that prevents infections in the first place, saves me time (no manual scan, no pain removing things), and nowadays stuff doesnt just come from a locally installed file. how about links in pdfs? at least i wont be someone that has to say " i should have used one..."
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Labyrinth:

I remember the days when AV software was to scan and protect against viruses, now it's try our VPN, try our password manager, try our PC disk cleaner, try our browser that's just chrome with a few tweaks and sends your data to us, etc etc
I remember the days when you used to have to load computer games into memory and rework your 640k of base for dos, now games come with 'launchers', which are also our VPN, our password manager, our PC disk cleaner, our browser that's just chrome with a few tweaks and sends your data to us, etc etc
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Explains why Avira went downhill...
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I don't even remember the last time I installed Norton or Avira. When Avira's scores started to drop, I stopped recommending it. That was a decade ago or so.... I used to recommend Sophos Home, but they started stripping features out of the free version and released a paid version to get all the features the free version used to have, and some useless extras. I have McAfee running on my son's and mother's computers as it's not resource heavy and the performance impact is unnoticeable without running benchmarks. The only annoying popup is to enable "safe search", which is useless and heavily filters searches to exclude a large number of viable results. I have Panda's free antivirus on my own system, but don't recommend it to others because it's UI is insanely laggy. If I'm going to any questionable sites, I disconnect or remove my harddrives and boot from an Ubuntu LiveDVD (yes, DVD, cuz it can't be infected due to the nature of DVD). Eventually I'll probably transition to Windows Defender.