Core i9 12900K DDR4 3600 vs DDR5 5200 performance review
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Jawnys
i dont see the point of the article, why not use ddr5 well tweaked and ddr4 4400h at cl 17 or better, this article doesnt tell anything
Mufflore
It tells you current mainstream DDR5 is almost dead equivalent to 3600c16.
Tweaking articles come later.
If you can do articles faster, dont forget to provide a link 😉
kapu
Its good point for 90%+ of people.
It proofs ddr5 as it is , is meaningless .
Max tuned ? What it proofs? Proofs that few % can do something else ?
Venix
No it does not ... Only that if you are not into tweaking memory etc using a ddr4 mobo will save you money with out needing to spend so much on overpriced ddr5 and with out sacrificing performance ... Oh wait.
DeskStar
I guess if one was to be compressing data all day then DDR5 FTW....
Airbud
They could put a ddr4-or-ddr5 switch on the motherboard...$ 😛
Mufflore
This is possible but again will reduce performance through longer traces (more interference and degradation), more direction changes, closer proximity to more circuits due to larger circuit sizes, more soldered connections and switch points - each of which can cause part of the signal to be reflected back increasing noise and reducing signal strength ...
user1
what I'd really like to see is one of those new ddr4 5000 kits vs the ddr5, there are quite a few kits available now.
Airbud
Yea!...something tells me this^ is in the near future...teach me something new!
new tech is still fun.
nizzen
Already tested. Gear 1 is still the way to go. Like 4266c14 gear 1, with very good binned b-die 🙂 4800c17, 4000c14 etc...
From a guy from Overclock.net:
SOTR benchmark; 12900k and 6400c30 tweaked DDR5. Official the fastest run in the world in this benchmark on water.
Looks like 6400mhz and tweaked, no Gear 1 DDR4 will be faster. Can't wait for even faster DDR5 in the future 🙂
PS: This is Hynix 4800c40 kit that is overclocked. So about the cheapest model with Hynix 😛
https://www.overclock.net/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.overclock.net/attachments/20211128_191008-png.2534771/
rflair
Moderator
God damn.
What is going on with some people, STOP with your partisan crap.
EngEd
You can't have both DDR4 and DDR5 on the same mobo. That will complicate things on the chipset/memory controller side, not to mention it will make the mobo even more expensive.
For now either go with full high speed, lowest latency DDR4 or wait until DDR5 6000mhz+ chips become available or buy the best possible DDR5 RAM now and upgrade later. I am confident we can even reach 7Ghz on DDR5 in the near future! We still have chip/semiconductor shortages around the world...
kapu
DDR5 will reach 8 Ghz thats about certain . Question is when .
barbacot
For me the prices for DDR 5 are too high for what they offer right now - I'm talking about "real" shop prices and not MSRP...
The bad thing is that mobo manufacturers sell their high end boards for alder lake with ddr 5 support only so if you want to buy a high end motherboard with ddr 4 for alder lake you're out of luck...
It would be great to have a high end board that supports both but this is highly unlikely because from what I know the circuits for memory controller are very different and the costs will be extremely high - if it would be possible.
-Tj-
Btw, mixed ddr support was already a thing back in the past.. just fyi.
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/ddr3_and_ddr4_on_one_motherboard/1
Not both at the same time, but you could either use ddr3 or ddr4. In today days 2x16gb would be more then enough to not get memory capacity starved.
Mufflore
DDR3 and DDR4 are very similar.
DDR5 is quite different, mixing with DDR4 wouldnt be so easy and would definitely be limited from using the higher speed memory.
-Tj-
Is it?
Ddr2 vs ddr3 mobo also was a thing in 2009
https://www.techpowerup.com/87587/msi-unveils-ddr2-ddr3-combo-motherboards
Kool64
Since all I have is a 2070s I still feel like king of the world with my humble 3700x and garbage(super cheap) C18 3600. 😀
Mufflore
This article describes DDR5 well and covers differences from DDR4.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/ddr5-deep-dive-kingston-in-interview-about-new-memory-standard-and-examples-from-the-practice/
user1
it is and it isn't, the biggest issue would be the voltage regulation ,which differs alot, otherwise, It probably would just make the board more expensive , not necessarily that challenging to do.
