Computex 2017: VROC Technology Passing 10 GB/sec with M2
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SirDremor
I didn't completely get it - where is the RADI controller itself?
In CPU? Or somewhere on Motherboard?
CDJay
No, it's on the CPU itself ( "Virtual RAID On CPU" ) which is why Kaby Lake-X doesn't support it on the same mobo.
I hadn't realised that the default unlocked RAID 0 was software based, that's interesting.
You won't necessarily need to buy one of these cards, some of the mobos have DIMM.2 slots next to the RAM slots which have direct CPU access for 2 M2 (Intel Only) SSDs.
So to get hardware accelerated RAID 0 you'd need 2x Intel 600p drives, and the unlock key. Not cheap, but not crazy expensive either. There aren't really enough native lanes, IMO, at this point. You'd want at least 52 lanes so you don't need to choose (example: SLI + Hyper M2 = compromised. GPU + Red Rocket X + Hyper M2 = compromised).
CDJay
ieskorp
Zeka
Another overly expensive technology from Intel that will be used in 0.001% of sold computers. I know there's never enough bandwidth and speed, but to me it looks like VERY expensive (compatible board, x cpu, m2 units and key) technology with serious drawbacks (cpu load).
JamesSneed
An unlock key? The 1990's wants there dongles back. Oh Intel.
bazookaman3
So VROC is software RAID-0 running on the CPU at up to 20% CPU utilization. I get that part.
What I don't understand is what happens when you use the physical key for "hardware RAID" as stated in the article. Is there an actual hardware RAID controller on the CPU? Or, is there a hardware RAID controller on the motherboard, and if so, is it using PCI-e lanes to connect to the CPU? If yes, how many lanes, and are those lanes part of the 44 normal lanes for some CPU's?
WareTernal
slyphnier
so with the key, it active "RAID" function on CPU, without overheading cpu ?
or because it directly work hardware base, it use less cpu than software based ?
well if it work as good as real raid controller, then no complain i guess
think it save $ buying raid controller
bazookaman3
Fox2232
Big No-No to CPU Eater. It probably puts strain on CPU cache system too.
So running workloads on 8C/16T and then benchmarking this thing on remaining 2C/4T of 10C/20T chip will choke caches needed by main workload.
Yes, in case of running database from it and running some crazy query, this will be vastly superior to regular disk/ssd subsystem DB can run on.
(With exception of Oracle Coherence In-Memory Data Grid...)
Zhyr
Bazooka - the hardware RAID chip is on the motherboard already. It's just unable to be used if you don't buy the $150 unlock key/code.
MRFSYS
see also Highpoint SSD7101A
x16
4 x NVMe M.2 SSDs
no dongle 🙂
Highpoint contact says they are working on making it bootable.
BenJeremy
Trying to get 3x 512GB Samsung 960 Pro nvme RAID-0 working on my BIL's Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7 motherboard (i9-7900X CPU)
No go.
For starters, it won't even recognize one of the slots. In the manual, there is a vague comment that the "M2M_32G connector must work with an Intel VROC Upgrade Key to support RAID configuration" - it looks like it won't work at all without the VROC key. I have been completely unable to get it to see any drive in that slot (moving sticks around).
I managed to get two of the slots to configure as a RAID array, but Windows 10 install will not recognize the array.
Oddly, there is no "NVME" menu option in BIOS. The drives seem to be recognized in inconsistent ways... iRST seems to absolutely hate these non-Intel Optane drives.
I have an odd suspicion that if my BIL bought the VROC key, everything would suddenly work.
My own system is a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 and I run 2x Plextor nvme drives in a RAID-0 array as my boot drive without issue. I also have 30 years of experience building systems.
It seems like VROC is just a scam by Intel to pry more money out of enthusiasts' hands. Why should somebody spend ANOTHER $100 after buying a $400 motherboard and $1000 CPU just to get the promised functionality to work? This is what we've come to.
msroadkill612
"My own system is a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 and I run 2x Plextor nvme drives in a RAID-0 array as my boot drive without issue. I also have 30 years of experience building systems."
Well yeah, but isnt that using 2x m.2 nvme ports, both on the very bandwidth limited chipset?
ie. both 4 lane ssdS share just 4 lanes via the chipset.
If u dont mind ~maxing out your chipset, it would help for 2x lesser ssdS (such as yours vs samsung), but a single samsung 960 pro can almost max out 4 lanes, so raid 0 is pointless~.
I am not being anti. just asking mostly. clarity to the folks here.