Colorful Sells Barebone GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (no cooler)

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Ridiric:

So... if one card died from Asus you would never buy from them again either? (not trying to defend colourful as a brand here just trying to point out the bad logic of taking a single failure of ANYTHING to be representative of the whole product/brand)
Maybe.
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PraetoriaN_IT:

Maybe.
PraetoriaN_IT your claim make little sense. And you know. If your years of building pc hardware for friends gave you statistics, either the failing rate of that brand is 100% it means you bought one, got bad luck, and bought something else. Broken hardware is normal, it happens, nothing has to do with brands that use reference boards.
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On paper, good idea. But what about if you decide to resell it? Pretty unclear market
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PraetoriaN_IT:

It is my personal experience. And yes, this brand is dead to me.
Your reasoning doesn't make sense. Colorful doesn't make reference cards(neither do any other AiBs) So you might as well not buy AMD or nvidia whenever a reference card dies as the brand you bought never manufactured it.
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PraetoriaN_IT:

Well, i just registered (but I always read ^^) to tell you guys that in years of hardware, building many PC's for my friends and I, this brand is basically the ONLY one I found broken. It was an AMD card (if I don't remember bad it was a 6870HD) and it was completely non-functional. RMA was helpful at least for me. While I appreciate the offer of this card, I cannot recommend this brand. Be careful 😛
Every company has fail rates. Literally.....Ever......Company........ The fact that you received a dead card, is not on the company. The fact that you reacted so irrationally about it, that's on you. The only problem i see here is you and your reaction. Don't go telling people to not buy from a specific company because of "one" experience you had that is invalid in a whole, for all you know, the issue with that graphics card, was the GPU itself, produced by AMD, so are you also boycotting all of AMD products as well? I really hope you are, to make certain you stay within your "one-issue limit" for toleration.
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I'm shocked it's taken this long for someone to realize there's a market for this.
PraetoriaN_IT:

Well, i just registered (but I always read ^^) to tell you guys that in years of hardware, building many PC's for my friends and I, this brand is basically the ONLY one I found broken. It was an AMD card (if I don't remember bad it was a 6870HD) and it was completely non-functional. RMA was helpful at least for me. While I appreciate the offer of this card, I cannot recommend this brand. Be careful 😛
Most computer parts, including GPUs, tend to be tested before being shipped. Unless something like a capacitor falls off during shipping, if the product fails, 99% of the time it's the consumer's fault. In the case of GPUs, that's typically due to a crappy/insufficient PSU, or handling it wrong. I would find it very hard to believe that Colorful doesn't test their products before boxing them.
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0blivious:

So will it be like a Porsche? They take things off of it and then charge you MORE.
Does that also mean that its faster too? LoL.
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He had a bad experience with a brand and decides to spend his money elsewhere. I dont see what the big deal is here. Why go with someone who failed you when you're spoiled for choice?
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Moto_Life:

He had a bad experience with a brand and decides to spend his money elsewhere. I dont see what the big deal is here. Why go with someone who failed you when you're spoiled for choice?
Because it serves no purpose. If that is what you do, then at some point all brands will not be available to you. I mean sure, if you do some actual RESEARCH to find out if one company or product has a high failrate, then you'd be finding out some actually useful information. For instance i dont buy seagate currently, i buy HGST, why? Because the recorded STATISTICS that are available have shown (have not looked in awhile) that seagate had the highest failrate and HGST had the lowest. Does that mean if i got an HGST and it failed i will i no longer use HGST? Absolutely not, the actual STATISTICS show that i would have had bad luck. But realistically, the main reason its an issue is he is warning people to not buy a product because...all products have a fail rate? And has nothing to do with the manufacturer. Thats wrong.
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i'd love if more manufacturers did this 😀 and if they could at least guarantee there's no coil whine coming from that card (as waterblocks amplify the noise ruining your plans of a silent build T.T). on general watercooling i found the most uncomfortable thing by far to remove the cooler from the gpu, that thing is always soo damn on there that you need to flex the board a wee bit wile rocking it a bit to get it to separate, highly unconformable. but now thats been replaced by rigid tubing and the leaktest when you first fill it ^^" (worst i've had with flexi tubing was a minor drip, where i've had 2-3 full blown yea it's escaping the loop at an alarming rate scenario's with rigid not exactly getting me confortable with it).
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Still nice to have the original cooler to put back on and sell when it is time to upgrade your card, pros and cons.
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0blivious:

So will it be like a Porsche? They take things off of it and then charge you MORE.
Most high end car companies charge extra for changes made from the standard production line version. This is not unique to Porsche. Porsche is just one of the few that lists those prices in their car configurator
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PraetoriaN_IT:

It is my personal experience. And yes, this brand is dead to me.
In that case, I should write off Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, ASRock, Visiontek, Sapphire, Corsair, Seagate, WD, Visiontek and god knows how many other brands.... Guess I'd need a new hobby if I were to follow your logic.....
Moto_Life:

He had a bad experience with a brand and decides to spend his money elsewhere. I dont see what the big deal is here. Why go with someone who failed you when you're spoiled for choice?
If it was a repeat occurrence, I'd agree. However, it was a 1-time event. The first Asus motherboard I purchased failed in only a few days. The first MSI board only last a few weeks. The first Sapphire card was DOA. The first Visiontek card almost got me sued. In the case of Gigabyte, I've had 5 products with their branding. I'm 1-4 on Gigabyte products lasting more than 7 days.... Eventually "choice" starts to dry up if you abandon every brand that fails you 1 time.
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Loophole35:

RTX is over-priced and underwhelming. This is a cool concept and something users have been asking for for years. Too bad it came on a card that SHOULD NOT sell a single unit due to that ridiculous price.
agree, good option, bad product price, that can't be so economical
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This is brilliant! I wish every company offered this option. I wouldn't even care if there was a discount. It's worth it to save myself the hassle especially with the 2080 ti cards. I don't know anything about the Colorful brand but if they offered an advanced exchange I would buy from them since it's reference.
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This would be a better option than ever offering a "blower style" cooler.....lol
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I hink this is a good move, saving heatsinks where they'd just end up sitting inside a box... yet it comes down to a serious price drop. If it doesn't get a significant price drop like 50-100$, it probably won't be a real feature to grab people's interest.
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I wish they made it single slot with one DP less or used 3 micro DP and one full sized HDMi or made all of them micro. Its perfect for water cooling
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fantaskarsef:

I hink this is a good move, saving heatsinks where they'd just end up sitting inside a box... yet it comes down to a serious price drop. If it doesn't get a significant price drop like 50-100$, it probably won't be a real feature to grab people's interest.
Most of my stock coolers end up sitting in boxes, and I'm not watercooling my GPU.... lol
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I have bought many generation of gpus’ and put an Arctic Accelero on a lot of them. The cycle would usually be: buy card, remove stock cooler, replace with accelero, remove accelero and replace original cooler, sell card, buy new card and put accelero on, rinse repeat. Can’t do that with this card. Really narrow market here. Who wants a barebones used old card when it is time to upgrade. It’s a one and done. Not sure it will be around long....

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