I will tinker and play with BIOS power settings on a RX 580.. maybe I should flash it to a RX 570 to save power, or make it RX 590 and go bezerk. But for just 100€. For years and years I would instantly buy the latest and the greatest hardware wise. But not anymore. GPU mining changed the landscape and even now we have a some sort of aftermath. And when manufacturers are not getting enough, well conveniently there is a power surge, VRAM production gets botched, last minute BIOS updates. My BS detector is beeping for a long time, I was just ignoring it. But whatever man, life is more than hardware parts and best benchmarks scores. The latest AMD launch pissed me off. I just want to reset and re evaluate my needs and priorities. Cheers!

Many people will buy the RX 5600XT and end up with significantly lower performance. Most consumers don´t update Bios, nor should they have to do it to have the performance of what AMD calls "stock" for this card. This launch is a mess, I think AMD could have handled this better, even if they postponed the launch for a bit. It shouldn't be the end consumer doing something that had to come ready. Mainly, since it is something that, although little, always has some degree of risk. And yet, some people think that this is perfectly normal, but Nvidia's RTX Super line was very confusing for consumers... Go figure.

anticupidon:

I will tinker and play with BIOS power settings on a RX 580.. maybe I should flash it to a RX 570 to save power, or make it RX 590 and go bezerk. But for just 100€. For years and years I would instantly buy the latest and the greatest hardware wise. But not anymore. GPU mining changed the landscape and even now we have a some sort of aftermath. And when manufacturers are not getting enough, well conveniently there is a power surge, VRAM production gets botched, last minute BIOS updates. My BS detector is beeping for a long time, I was just ignoring it. But whatever man, life is more than hardware parts and best benchmarks scores. The latest AMD launch pissed me off. I just want to reset and re evaluate my needs and priorities. Cheers!

You cannot flash the 580 to 570 or 590, thats how you brick your card. You can use the Polaris bios editor then flash the desired clocks, tdp. I went berserk, overclocked the damn thing to 1500mhz on the core, 2100mhz on the memory (timings lvl 2) and its getting same scores as 590. Only downside is that its pulling 200W. 😀

Good to know

Undying:

You cannot flash the 580 to 570 or 590, thats how you brick your card. You can use the Polaris bios editor then flash the desired clocks, tdp. I went berserk, overclocked the damn thing to 1500mhz on the core, 2100mhz on the memory (timings lvl 2) and its getting same scores as 590. Only downside is that its pulling 200W. 😀

Do not forget the power consumption of Vram and Vrm,some tools measure only the Gpu. 🙂

Turanis:

Do not forget the power consumption of Vram and Vrm,some tools measure only the Gpu. 🙂

hwinfo measure the whole package, its should be accurate i think.

Undying:

Why didnt they just add 14gbps at the end? 5600xt and 5600xt 14gbps. Not like nvidia didnt do that before with 1060 and 1060 9gbps.

Thats due to 14Gbps being in short supply due to high demand. So the cost of 14Gbps is pretty steep.

Nvidias last minute price reduction of the 2060 really messed them up. AMD should have just delayed the 5600xt launch another week to get their act together with a well thought out, orderly response.

Its not like the cards wont sell. All the reviewers agreed amd messed up the launch but performance is great and card is recommended. Idk about USA but in EU 2060 300$ is non existent and still costs 350$ and thats rx5700 territory.

Undying:

Its not like the cards wont sell. All the reviewers agreed amd messed up the launch but performance is great and card is recommended.

The 5600xt launch shows exactly why both GPU makers are ultra-secretive about new GPU releases and why there are strict NDAs. Any leaked info on expected performance of a card gives the other side a chance to respond and mess up the competitors launch (usually by price reductions). But last minute bios tweaks as a counter-response is a first to see. 😀 I guess AMD had to do it that way to save the 5600xt from mediocre reviews. Imagine the cards released 10-12% slower (no bios tweak) and going against a $300 rtx2060. The reviews conclusion pages would not have been as rosy. Its the launch day reviews that count the most and is why both GPU makers were frantically trying to skew them to their side before the reviews are out.

jbscotchman:

RMA's and negative customer feedback incoming. Seriously I'd be pissed if I bought one of these on day one and ended up getting a gimped version.

In case of negative feedback on this subject, there are essentially 4 things to blame. 1. Reviewers for putting factory overclocked performance without properly validated cards 2. AMD for changing the specs 3. AiB Partners for allowing overclocked bios to be flashed on the cards by the end user (because of extra performance) 4. End users because in a lot of cases they don't know what are they doing or understand how overclocking works. Also, it is not gimped version, it is a version of a card that is not gimping AMDs more expensive card.