Its probably some missing benchmark.. because it would be first time after very long period, when we would get some big generation improvement for fastest CPU line.. I know AMD did big performance jump, if only leveled them with Intel for games at the best.

kapu:

arent new consoles 6/12 ?

As pointed out earlier, they have 8c/16t, but, realistically 2c/4t will be reserved for background processes like updates, music, and streaming/recording.

Nice, AMD 8 core CPU beating Intel 10 core CPU... Is this some alternate galaxy? Cuz I did not believe I would still be alive to see it with my own eyes lmao

ryzen 3 out on 20 oct going by videocardz

anyone knows were i can get Combo PI V2 1.1.0.0 for msi x570 apro motherboard for ryzen 3?? ty for any info u can give me

I would look more at the frametime than the fps.. and those improvements are really sweet if they are true.

SmootyPoody:

No. It is a synthesized result. Look at the picture. Look at where it says "framerate" that is the actual framerate the "game" is running in. Looking at the "CPU framerate" is like taking the "framerate" benchmark result then doing a cinebench result in multithreaded performance and then interpolating those results together. The AMD processores are of cause gonna do better as they do theoretical multitheaded workloads better, but it is not the actual performance the overall system is doing in the game. They even did a 1080p and the Intel still was better in the actual framerate result. It makes no sense to say that the "CPU framerate" is what the game COULD run at if it didnt have a GPU bottleneck, because then why is the Intel result higher but it scores lower in the "CPU framerate" result? Look I am no Intel fanboy. I am just pointing out the obvious that is the result in the test from the image. I am not the one who posted the picture. We all know AMD CPU are better multithread workers. This has been true for a couple of years. As long as it was implementet correctly. I am just stating what the benchmark result is actually saying. Like everything else. Lets just wait for the actual test where we know the methodology behind instead of getting carried away by pre launch results. And lets look at the correct results before the hype trains leaves the station.

Well here are the results for the 3800X. So we are looking at the blue bar for the real results? The 3800X scores higher than the 5800X at 1080p. I am confused.

Looks like they are going to fly past Intel this year in every aspect, a quick little swap with my 3800X doesn’t seem like a bad idea. 😀

No X670 boards this year has really dampened my enthusiasm for Zen 3. I don't trust MSI to get out a stable BIOS in time tbh plus my X570 board isn't the best anyway so wanted something better. 🙁

I think the 5700/5800 is a single 8 core CCX which brings latency down by a bigger margin than people thought. This makes it an amazing gaming chip before it's even released. Now it's whether to go for the 5700 or the 5600 even. Either way i'm also selling up and going 570X 5700X... Shame the new RX line up isn't the 5700XT. I could of had a 570X 5700X 5700XT.

I`ll wait for the XT version....5800 might be worth a look if it gives a boost to games like the division 2, Ets2, Arma3(4k), F1 2020/2021 and ACC(2k).... not too much to ask

It should be great upgrade for my placeholder 2700x. Good thing i got x570 board. Only thing that bothers me is replacing ram kit for something faster. 3200 is not gonna cut it.

Undying:

I can especially when games start being developed for new consoles only. 8c/16t will become standard soon so going with ryzen 7 is a smart idea.

8c/16t for new consoles is all well and good and they are finally using an architecture that doesn't suck. But remember not all of those cores/threads will be used for gaming. At least 2-4 threads will be locked off for running the OS and other features too such as downloads in the background, game pausing/quick resume between multiple games, game streaming, and in the case of the Xbox Series X some of those cores will have to be used for data decompression from the NVME SSD as it doesn't have the same dedicated decompression hardware found in the PS5. Not to mention they are also clocked lower than their PC counterparts, have a lot less cache, and god knows what else cut down to fit everything onto a single SoC. Then you also have to factor in RAM as well, which sure is super fast GDDR6 16GB. But the PS5 has this partitioned off so games get around 10-12GB and then again this has to be shared between CPU and GPU. The Xbox Series X has an even worse setup, with two completely different memory pools, each with different bandwidths. Then you also have to factor in the Series S which again has another 2 different setups for memory and much lower bandwidth too. This could potentially cause nightmares for game developers, some of whom have already spoken out and been punished for it. At most I think games will be using 12 threads this generation and even then its going to take a while before these types of games actually come out. With a lot of first year games also being made for the current generation of consoles also.

If its this really this good and leads Intel in gaming my Gen 1 1800x is getting swapped out well with a new MB as well.

I think 3200 CL14 will be fine but i'll prolly get a 32gb kit of 4000+ to go with the Zen 3. I doubt it will make much difference tbh. A good 3200 kit @CL14 bdie ones like mine will do fine for a year or two more until real 4000+ ram is released with decent low timings. Most of these 4000+ kits are just overclocked and it might stay that way until DDR5 and a new higher JEDEC is released.

Intel damage control squads, assemble!

Undying:

It should be great upgrade for my placeholder 2700x. Good thing i got x570 board. Only thing that bothers me is replacing ram kit for something faster. 3200 is not gonna cut it.

There's not that much difference honestly it all depends on the latency. 3200 CL14, 3600 CL16, 3800-4000 CL18 and 4000+ CL 19 should all perform relatively close to each others in gaming depending on the mb, ram, ... 3600 CL16 seems to be the sweet spot unless you want to fine tune with Ryzen DRAM Calculator. Obviously if you can afford 4000 with a CL inferior to 18 then go for it (if it even exists i did not check).

This looks very promising. I was tempted to go for 5900X this time round but this might be enough.

Mundosold:

Intel damage control squads, assemble!

Let's add 100Mhz and call it next gen? Excellent!

Supertribble:

Well here are the results for the 3800X. So we are looking at the blue bar for the real results? The 3800X scores higher than the 5800X at 1080p. I am confused.

This is the result of a 10700K. Much higher.. So can we please just close this subject and move on and wait for the real benchmarks. [URL='https://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/benchmark#/benchmark-result/9b6e1a74-3394-447f-b253-febd40d3d8e1']10700K @ 1080p https://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/benchmark#/benchmark-result/9b6e1a74-3394-447f-b253-febd40d3d8e1 [/URL] 5800X @ 1080p https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2020/09/AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X-Ashes-of-the-Singularity-Single-Run-1200x571.png [URL='https://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/benchmark#/benchmark-result/9b6e1a74-3394-447f-b253-febd40d3d8e1'] [/URL]