Aura89:

^ Guess this guy likes to play at 720p. Ultra gamer here guys!

Oh, so true...! I did not buy an 8GB GPU so that I could game @ 1920x1080 or 720p....;) Looking at the QHD (and up) game benches there's hardly a spit's worth of frame-rate difference between GPUs...! At decent resolutions, gaming is very much GPU-dependent. Really, it's pretty much always been that way, imo.

^ Yep, I'm playing Hell Let Loose @ 1440p, epic textures but mainly high settings with a few medium and getting low 60 - mid 70 fps (still looks great as well). Oh I've realised you can't game on a Ryzen (1600X) can you..... 😛

I'm finally considering the upgrade to Ryzen from a 4790K, but just haven't decided on which. I have a Noctua NH-D15 already, so it might make more sense to get the regular 2700 over the X. At the same time its mildly depressing that my 4790K @ 4.6ghz has equal to greater single threaded performance as a stock 8700K.

blkspade:

I'm finally considering the upgrade to Ryzen from a 4790K, but just haven't decided on which. I have a Noctua NH-D15 already, so it might make more sense to get the regular 2700 over the X. At the same time its mildly depressing that my 4790K @ 4.6ghz has equal to greater single threaded performance as a stock 8700K.

Heck, I'm seriously considering going to Ryzen + myself (I know, I am stupid beyond belief...but I love buying decent computer hardware offered at very decent prices...;) I am such a sucker! They can see me coming...) I am very happy with the 1600 @ 3.8GHz stable--but the 2600X looks to be a bit better, and perhaps won't have the Spectre2 microcode penalty that I currently am seeing. I think that I would go to a 2600x, maybe, instead of the 1600 I have installed now--although I could probably get as much from the 2600 as I could from the x cpu--and I will probably go with a x470 mboard, too, this time around (I really like the external Clear CMOS buttons these boards have that the x370 boards--mine, anyway--didn't.) There is only ~$30 difference between the X ($230)and the non-X 2600 ($199); but there's about a ~$100 jump to an 8-core, as well as elevated cpu power requirements. For that matter, I think I read that the 2600x has 95W TDP, but the 2600 has a 65W TDP. So maybe the extra MHz peak for the 2600x has to do more with power consumed than it does with binning, which means I might have to stick with the 2600. Still collating... But maybe this whole Spectre 2 microcode slowdown that I am seeing and measuring is just MSI doing something wrong relative to applying this update--and *maybe* they will fix it by the next bios update. That would be refreshing news--what bothers me is that MSI is being mum--very mum, about the whole thing.

Jagman:

^ Yep, I'm playing Hell Let Loose @ 1440p, epic textures but mainly high settings with a few medium and getting low 60 - mid 70 fps (still looks great as well). Oh I've realised you can't game on a Ryzen (1600X) can you..... 😛

That sentiment "you can't game with a 1600" is bizarre, especially when I consider I had no trouble gaming on my FX-8320e, either. *Who* is going to spend ~$700 on a nVidia GPU, for instance, and then game @ 1080P...? What a waste...;)

waltc3:

That sentiment "you can't game with a 1600" is bizarre, especially when I consider I had no trouble gaming on my FX-8320e, either. *Who* is going to spend ~$700 on a nVidia GPU, for instance, and then game @ 1080P...? What a waste...;)

I think he's saying that the 1600x is the CPU he has and he's gaming just fine, basically what pretty much any Ryzen user has said in regards to the nonsense that other people continue to try and push about "ryzens not being gaming CPUs"

waltc3:

That sentiment "you can't game with a 1600" is bizarre, especially when I consider I had no trouble gaming on my FX-8320e, either. *Who* is going to spend ~$700 on a nVidia GPU, for instance, and then game @ 1080P...? What a waste...;)

in my opinion any "true gamer" with a gtx 1080 and 1440p monitor thinks less of processor performance. Fast GPU is all you need. http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=39855 http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=39858 http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=39882

@Aura89 - Yes a little bit of sarcasm there 😀 @airbud7 - Yep 1440p is much more about the GPU @waltc3 - Go for the 2600X minimum (2700X ideally) forget about the tdp. Your 1600s tdp will be over 65W because you're overclocking it, so I wouldn't worry at all 🙂

Yes yes, this all looks very interesting for my next build, maybe Zen2. Playing at 1440p I don't see a reason not to buy a RyzenCPU, since it matches Intel's performance on that resolution "already" (beyond 1080p is what I'm talking about, not time wise).

^ Plus the AM4 platform currently makes more sense than Intels. You can go from an A6 9500 dual core 28nm to a 2700X 8c/16t 12nm on the same board! Well done AMD 😎

Jagman:

^ Plus the AM4 platform currently makes more sense than Intels. You can go from an A6 9500 dual core 28nm to a 2700X 8c/16t 12nm on the same board! Well done AMD 😎

Yeah I fancy the same platform, that's why I kind of want to wait and see if AMD will support the AM4 with their Zen2 CPUs, so that it's even valid for longer times to come. The only real thing I'd give up is quad channel RAM support, which argueably, never helped me in the first place 😀 (I can still use my 4x8GB DDR4 3200MHz with Ryzen, yes?)

Well AMD have said that AM4 will be supported 'til 2020 and Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000?) Is out next year so I take it that it will be AM4 as well. As for your RAM, no reason you can't use it really.

fantaskarsef:

Yeah I fancy the same platform, that's why I kind of want to wait and see if AMD will support the AM4 with their Zen2 CPUs, so that it's even valid for longer times to come. The only real thing I'd give up is quad channel RAM support, which argueably, never helped me in the first place 😀 (I can still use my 4x8GB DDR4 3200MHz with Ryzen, yes?)

https://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/news/5/9/59282_01_amd-ryzen-2018-2019-am4-socket.jpg