Hilbert Hagedoorn:

ASRock's family of motherboards based on AMD's X670E chipset and made for the upcoming Ryzen 7000-series processors went on pre-order Wednesday at two European stores. Unlike most AMD X670E-powered ... ASRock X670E Motherboards will be available for less than $300.

On other hand previous gen X570 were from 150 Euro to1400 Euro, with around 300/400 (it was expensive at this moment lol) at start...

rl66:

On other hand previous gen X570 were from 150 Euro to1400 Euro, with around 300/400 (it was expensive at this moment lol) at start...

I think we need to see what we get for the money, yes some things are now more expensive and the architecture might require more of those more expensive things but please lets not up the price just for the inclusion of overclockable RGB lights and watercooled digital displays.

this sounds great but i'm a bit concerned about the alleged boot times/RAM training

tunejunky:

this sounds great but i'm a bit concerned about the alleged boot times/RAM training

I have read that is unique to the AsRock Mobos and they have already patched the Bios to cut those times, maybe it effects other boards but i havnt seen anything on it

pegasus1:

I have read that is unique to the AsRock Mobos and they have already patched the Bios to cut those times, maybe it effects other boards but i havnt seen anything on it

@tunejunky Additionally, even if Asrock keeps it, that seems to be just a one-time thing. If it actually achieves better performance or stability, I hope the feature is kept (though run manually) and adopted by others.

schmidtbag:

@tunejunky Additionally, even if Asrock keeps it, that seems to be just a one-time thing. If it actually achieves better performance or stability, I hope the feature is kept (though run manually) and adopted by others.

again after reflection, you're right i bought first 2 gen of TR taichi and loved the boards so i'll definitely be looking at them

schmidtbag:

@tunejunky Additionally, even if Asrock keeps it, that seems to be just a one-time thing. If it actually achieves better performance or stability, I hope the feature is kept (though run manually) and adopted by others.

Yes if it auto sets and tests timing setting on its own, I would cladly wait a couple of minutes of training after each bios memory changes.

ASRock historically has always been on the ‘last rung’ or perceived to be, compared to the other mainstream MB OEM’s. For that matter I always questioned why ASRock motherboards have usually been considerably cheaper? Are they of a lesser quality comes immediately to mind for the many and especially for the more novice type buyer not familier with Bullzoid! But the introduction and eye-watering high pricing of the new X670E Taichi Carrara for instance is now playing a much different song! Thus I think that many enthusiasts these days will however think twice before shelling-out a cool $560 for any halo touted ASRock MB marketed specifically to those without budget limitations. Given our ongoing economic and inflationary conditions, the super high prices alone for just a Ryzen 7950X at $700 and a mandatory purchase of a fitting Taichi Carrara in excess of $550 will be a hard nut to swallow! As for myself I will be refraining in building a new system any time soon, and waiting-out for the next generation and hopefully better economic times ahead. Actually like the masses out there I have no choice as my paycheck in 2022 is now worth almost 10% less than last year. As to ASUS and MSI halo MB’s touted to ranging between the $1300 & $1500, one thing becomes very clear to me: “Hey Toto we’re not in Kansas anymore!”

I've got an Asrock 570x Taichi, great Mobo with three NVMe slots and a ton of USB sockets. Il get their x670 E if 8t has the same or greater capacity. @Tom Sunday as has been said several times on other posts elsewhere, NV, Intel or AMD don't care if you don't like the prices, nobody else cares. They will set the price after careful assessment of the market and adjust accordingly.

tunejunky:

this sounds great but i'm a bit concerned about the alleged boot times/RAM training

I dont think it will be an issue once you set it up.

I am presenting using an ASRock Steed Legend board. It is my first ASRock board. It been one of my favorites so far.

9 more days till RPL launch and Zen4 reviews... we'll wait till then.

Hope there will be a review on here of these.

I don't see the point of the X670E vs the X670. Daisy chaining chipsets so you can claim 'moar USB ports' when you already have like a dozen of the things. Additional m.2 slots from the 2nd chipset over the same PCIe 4 x4 total bandwidth to both chipsets is equally dense IMO. I'm sure there are some edge cases where this makes sense, but not most users, and even not most enthusiasts. That said, to stay below $300 these are undoubtedly 6 layer motherboards. You need 8 layers to go over DDR5-6000 reliably. In the Intel world, the MSI Carbon and MSI Force are like the cheapest boards that are 8 layer and run about $275-$350 depending on where you look. EVGA has its Classified at $300 now but that is normally $620. You can run DDR5-6600 24/7 without much issue on 8 layer motherboards. Anything less and in a couple of years, you'll be living in the dark ages of DDR5 5600/6000 forever (at best), or until you replace that motherboard. Point being, the vast majority will be better off with a high quality 8 layer $300 X670 than a $300 6 layer X670E.

shady28:

Point being, the vast majority will be better off with a high quality 8 layer $300 X670 than a $300 6 layer X670E.

Or just buy a high quality X670E board.

This is good news, I was afraid now the trend was 300+ minimum for a new high end quality mobo X670 chipset...

shady28:

I don't see the point of the X670E vs the X670. Daisy chaining chipsets so you can claim 'moar USB ports' when you already have like a dozen of the things. Additional m.2 slots from the 2nd chipset over the same PCIe 4 x4 total bandwidth to both chipsets is equally dense IMO. I'm sure there are some edge cases where this makes sense, but not most users, and even not most enthusiasts. That said, to stay below $300 these are undoubtedly 6 layer motherboards. You need 8 layers to go over DDR5-6000 reliably. In the Intel world, the MSI Carbon and MSI Force are like the cheapest boards that are 8 layer and run about $275-$350 depending on where you look. EVGA has its Classified at $300 now but that is normally $620. You can run DDR5-6600 24/7 without much issue on 8 layer motherboards. Anything less and in a couple of years, you'll be living in the dark ages of DDR5 5600/6000 forever (at best), or until you replace that motherboard. Point being, the vast majority will be better off with a high quality 8 layer $300 X670 than a $300 6 layer X670E.

on what basis is the claim of 6 layers on the asrock x670E made? afaik, there are VRM req's for x670E which dictate 8 layers but i could be misinformed. and there are quite a few use cases, just not for gamers which is why i've always recommended x670 (vanilla) or B650 for them

pegasus1:

Or just buy a high quality X670E board.

[SPOILER]https://i.etsystatic.com/22370217/r/il/09309b/2777580946/il_fullxfull.2777580946_96b1.jpg[/SPOILER] I bet regular b650 will do for most enthusiast level builds too.

cucaulay malkin:

[SPOILER]https://i.etsystatic.com/22370217/r/il/09309b/2777580946/il_fullxfull.2777580946_96b1.jpg[/SPOILER] I bet regular b650 will do for most enthusiast level builds too.

i want to slap that b*tch

cucaulay malkin:

[SPOILER]https://i.etsystatic.com/22370217/r/il/09309b/2777580946/il_fullxfull.2777580946_96b1.jpg[/SPOILER] I bet regular b650 will do for most enthusiast level builds too.

:D If something is worth doing, its worth overdoing. But do i wait for x3d to hit, or just go regular, im back in the UK for Xmas but i doubt the x3d will be out by then.