Maybe they should have a talk with certain manufacturers of CPUs, GPUs and mainboards / graphics cards.

Let me play a tiny violin for this patent troll.

Neo Cyrus:

Let me play a tiny violin for this patent troll.

I believe their patent expires in 2024 or 2025, everyone will be freed then.

TheDeeGee:

I believe their patent expires in 2024 or 2025, everyone will be freed then.

Yeah, I was thinking the same when I saw the revenue drop title. I wondered if the main patent already expired.

Neo Cyrus:

Let me play a tiny violin for this patent troll.

I still don't understand why everyone calls them patent trolls. Is it just that everyone is ignorant and don't understand what a patent troll is? Since Asetek actually design and make products based on their patents they are by definition not patent trolls. They are no different then Noctua, Cooler Master or any other manufacturer of actual products based on patents in that sense. An Asus or NZXT cooler using the Asetek design is actually manufactured by Asetek. The engineer who actually created the infinity mirror in the NZXT Kraken X-serias cooler was employed by Asetek and worked at Asetek in the city of Aalborg. People like you are destroying innovators by being ignorant.

Voxvalve:

I still don't understand why everyone calls them patent trolls. Is it just that everyone is ignorant and don't understand what a patent troll is? Since Asetek actually design and make products based on their patents they are by definition not patent trolls. They are no different then Noctua, Cooler Master or any other manufacturer of actual products based on patents in that sense. An Asus or NZXT cooler using the Asetek design is actually manufactured by Asetek. The engineer who actually created the infinity mirror in the NZXT Kraken X-serias cooler was employed by Asetek and worked at Asetek in the city of Aalborg. People like you are destroying innovators by being ignorant.

Patenting the position of a pump in the loop is not innovation , is just stopping competition by any means necessary . People like you encouraging monopolies by being so apologetic about their monopolistic behavior.

I mean is the patent system and the judges that are dumb, they tried to exploit the system, hopefully they failed. Anyway the issue is that is not that people can expect that we by new liquid cooler every year. My previous one lasted 6-7 years, and i removed because the PC was too heavy but was still working ok. This corsair i have now hopefully will last 5-6 years. There has been a spike in liquid coolers because AIO got better and cheaper, but now many people have it and you don't change it unless it breaks i suppose

Venix:

Patenting the position of a pump in the loop is not innovation , is just stopping competition by any means necessary . People like you encouraging monopolies by being so apologetic about their monopolistic behavior.

Asetek was the first company in the world to create an all in one liquid cooler for a computer. The entire company was founded on that basis, They invented the entire AIO product space. Why should they not have a patent? Why should they not be allowed to protect their invention just like any other company?

Venix:

Patenting the position of a pump in the loop is not innovation , is just stopping competition by any means necessary . People like you encouraging monopolies by being so apologetic about their monopolistic behavior.

Patents reward innovators and encourages others to innovate around it. It's a great driver of progress. Learn from others, make it better/different and advance the whole field.

I dont think tech companies have caught on yet that prices and profit have been too high and we're currently entering/in a recession, partly created by their over-profiting and it's only going to get worse

Voxvalve:

Asetek was the first company in the world to create an all in one liquid cooler for a computer. The entire company was founded on that basis, They invented the entire AIO product space. Why should they not have a patent? Why should they not be allowed to protect their invention just like any other company?

AuerX:

Patents reward innovators and encourages others to innovate around it. It's a great driver of progress. Learn from others, make it better/different and advance the whole field.

The actual pump sure if they made a new design and not the same pump design that is used last 50 years sure or a twaked design , but patenting the position of the pump on a loop it kills competition. Imagine if say on a car the position of the wheels where in a patent making sure nobody else can put the wheels near the car's 4 corners and parallel to each other ! Pretty much you kill the competition!

Venix:

The actual pump sure if they made a new design and not the same pump design that is used last 50 years sure or a twaked design , but patenting the position of the pump on a loop it kills competition. Imagine if say on a car the position of the wheels where in a patent making sure nobody else can put the wheels near the car's 4 corners and parallel to each other ! Pretty much you kill the competition!

Poor example, please read up on how and why patents are granted.

Venix:

Patenting the position of a pump in the loop is not innovation , is just stopping competition by any means necessary . People like you encouraging monopolies by being so apologetic about their monopolistic behavior.

It's hilarious to see that someone actually calls their anti-competitive law abuse "innovation" when it's the literal opposite, where do I sign up to get paid to spew such flagrant BS? Asetek have been nothing but a cancer to the cooling world and have invented/innovated precisely nothing that a monkey couldn't imagine. Just because you can legally patent a square or where a square is, doesn't mean you invented or innovated anything. "IgNorAnT"... LMAO!

Neo Cyrus:

It's hilarious to see that someone actually calls their anti-competitive law abuse "innovation" when it's the literal opposite, where do I sign up to get paid to spew such flagrant BS? Asetek have been nothing but a cancer to the cooling world and have invented/innovated precisely nothing that a monkey couldn't imagine. Just because you can legally patent a square or where a square is, doesn't mean you invented or innovated anything. "IgNorAnT"... LMAO!

Can you hear anything but yourself back there?

fantaskarsef:

Maybe they should have a talk with certain manufacturers of CPUs, GPUs and mainboards / graphics cards.

In a luxury venue, surrounded by all the frivolous amenities deemed necessary for those with too much money, representatives of the biggest hardware companies of the world, gather around a round table, protected from the gazes of curious persons. The representative of Asetek rises, looks at all the faces of the other representatives and muster the courage to say: "Sales are going done the toilet and this can`t continue, so we have to do something, but what?" All the others look at each other, with a puzzled and stupid look on their faces, not knowing what to answer... Until someone raises his trembling hand and says very lowly, almost whispering: "Maybe we should raise our prices, to make up for the lost revenue on lower sales?" Silence invades the room, as everyone directs their eyes at this representative, the same silence is ended when someone replies:" Yea, i think that`s a great idea! Do you guys agree?" Everyone raises at the same time, clapping their hands and patting each other on the back, for the very productive reunion. And then they all went to a very exclusive party, with plenty of hot babes and even more drugs!...:p

AuerX:

Patents reward innovators and encourages others to innovate around it. It's a great driver of progress. Learn from others, make it better/different and advance the whole field.

Patents should reward innovators but nowadays they are used to maintain the status quo. Intel is an example of this.

I can see both sides of the argument. On one hand it would be like coolermaster patenting fins on a heatsink. As to astek's patent: I haven't seen it, but, it would not be the pump position alone, it would be that AND the idea of a closed system that would afford it a patent. There would not have been no 'prior art' to use patent lingo. No prior art means it is a novel idea, a novel idea grants you a patent if it is deemed sufficiently different.