Are these the GeForce RTX 4090 and RTX 4080 Final (leaked) Specifications

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Kaarme:

But who would buy a 4070 if 4060 Ti was practically as strong?
People who like bigger numbers? 😀
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the 4060 is already a AD106 part.
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Oh man, this dual 4080 with different specs is so incredibly scummy. nGreedia can shove their new lineup into where the sun don't shine.
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wavetrex:

Oh man, this dual 4080 with different specs is so incredibly scummy. nGreedia can shove their new lineup into where the sun don't shine.
cry about it elsewhere, companies sell products to make money, not make you feel good.
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barbacot:

Uh? No....do the math: difference between the 12 GB version of 4080 and the 4090 is 6620 - it's HUGE (more than triple!) if you compare with the difference between 3080 and 3090. I think that Nvidia exactly this did not want: to have the two cards too close in performance By the looks of it 4090 will be a real king of the hill not like the 3090 Ti which was close in performance to the 3090, 3080 Ti so an weak, fable king (AMD again did not count for this title unfortunately). Also, if the rumors that Nvidia already stacked in warehouses lots of 4xxx gpu since august in order to avoid a paper launch are true then the price will be decent and with sometimes double the performance over the last generation what else is out there? To me it seems that now we will choose graphic cards according to how much electricity can we afford to pay based on "Nvidia electricity bill plan" with their variable consumption...so choose not only based on price & performance but also how much electricity can you afford to pay monthly. The card may be finally affordable but you could still face financial ruin based on price of energy and how much these cards eat every second of playing a demanding game. So this month you received a bonus at work? go play metro exodus, call of duty, etc on your brand new 4090; no bonus? - lower the limit of consumption at minimum but you can only afford to play windows solitaire! - I'm exaggerating of course but it seems that Nvidia finally thought about the consumer: you choose how much current you spent.
Electricity cost is no joke right now. I was told price is going to jump to 45c per kWh in a week or two here (from 33c). So according to my last bill of 800 units, that would mean the bill will now be €360 - adding VAT @ 9% and standing charges of €36 - its €431 for two months electricity! So I pay that same for electricity in four months as I do to buy something like a 3070! Crazy. And I don't even use electricity to heat water - I have a gas bill on top of this to do that!
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I mean it is very odd to release two GPU's with the same name but with different specs..
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geogan:

Electricity cost is no joke right now. !
Finally glad i relocated to a different country five years ago, we might not have Amazon or 5G (or even 4G) and our internet is painfully slow but my electricity bill last month was £22.
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Hulk12:

You don't need new PSU because your PSU 1kW w/o 12VHPWR is fine for RTX 4090 and this card will include the new 12VHPWR to few 8-pin PCIe's adapter. Don't worry. 🙂
I'm not sure.... An adapter will only be able to provide 450W and it's quite likely to result in 1 of the 8pin PCIe connectors carrying more than 150W. The PCIE5 standard has data connections between the PSU and GPU so the GPU knows what connector is in use. If there is a 600W mode, I suspect it'll be locked unless you're using a 12VHPWR. They're not going to let people run PCIe 8pin cables over spec.
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southamptonfc:

I'm not sure.... An adapter will only be able to provide 450W and it's quite likely to result in 1 of the 8pin PCIe connectors carrying more than 150W. The PCIE5 standard has data connections between the PSU and GPU so the GPU knows what connector is in use. If there is a 600W mode, I suspect it'll be locked unless you're using a 12VHPWR. They're not going to let people run PCIe 8pin cables over spec.
If thats the case then it could have a significant impact to sales as now not only a new expensive card but a previously expensive PSU being made redundant.
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geogan:

Electricity cost is no joke right now. I was told price is going to jump to 45c per kWh in a week or two here (from 33c). So according to my last bill of 800 units, that would mean the bill will now be €360 - adding VAT @ 9% and standing charges of €36 - its €431 for two months electricity! So I pay that same for electricity in four months as I do to buy something like a 3070! Crazy. And I don't even use electricity to heat water - I have a gas bill on top of this to do that!
Right now I pay 1 euro/kW...:( The good side: it is very easy for me to calculate my bill.:D
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southamptonfc:

I'm not sure.... An adapter will only be able to provide 450W and it's quite likely to result in 1 of the 8pin PCIe connectors carrying more than 150W. The PCIE5 standard has data connections between the PSU and GPU so the GPU knows what connector is in use. If there is a 600W mode, I suspect it'll be locked unless you're using a 12VHPWR. They're not going to let people run PCIe 8pin cables over spec.
There are people running dual 8pin 3090 at 520W without any problem (me included), good quality 8pin PCIe cable can easily handle ~360W (10amp per wire) each, PCIe spec is just over-engineered.
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Astyanax:

the 4060 is already a AD106 part.
Yeah, but I wasn't talking about 4060. I was talking about 4060 Ti. 3060 Ti has the same chip as 3070, just cut down. Isn't it going to be the case in the 4000 series as well? Who knows, but if Nvidia is shifting models up behind the scenes to justify higher prices, then, certainly, it's possible 4060 Ti will actually get a lesser chip that was meant for the vanilla 4060. Of course it's possible 4060 Ti was never meant to share the chip with 4070, sure, it's all up to Nvidia. It could face thougher competition from AMD in that case, assuming AMD can fix the RT performance.
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i'm just as upset over this naming nomenclature as the next guy. imho, this is all due to The Merge (ETH). Nvidia has to delay low end to enthusiast cards because of the glut of Ampere. i also believe this is why they re-named 4070 to 4080 12G. of course you can say greed, and you won't be wrong, but in reality all of the announced cards will mop the floor with the last gen - giving the hardcore an ample excuse to buy - at an Nvidia controlled price. but the flipside to that bullshit is the market is flooded with 4K cards under $800... which will further winnow the Nvidia Lovelace demographic. AMD isn't in as nearly as bad as Nvidia but it's bad enough considering their market share.
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Are these the GeForce RTX 4090 and RTX 4080 Final (leaked) Specifications
Are they ?
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Meathelix1:

So the 4090 has more Cuda cores and 8 more gigs of Vram.
70% more to be precise
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southamptonfc:

I'm not sure.... An adapter will only be able to provide 450W and it's quite likely to result in 1 of the 8pin PCIe connectors carrying more than 150W. The PCIE5 standard has data connections between the PSU and GPU so the GPU knows what connector is in use. If there is a 600W mode, I suspect it'll be locked unless you're using a 12VHPWR. They're not going to let people run PCIe 8pin cables over spec.
??? 4x 8pin = 600W My 1000W PSU for example has 6x 8pin, so what's the problem? Seems like people are dreaming up problems where there should be none. We just need 4x 8pin -> 12VHPWR cable from our PSU makers.
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Glottiz:

??? 4x 8pin = 600W My 1000W PSU for example has 6x 8pin, so what's the problem? Seems like people are dreaming up problems where there should be none. We just need 4x 8pin -> 12VHPWR cable from our PSU makers.
Problem is that 4 x 8pin don't exist and I'm getting the impression that only a fully compliant PCIE5 600W 12VHPWR PSU will be allowed if you want to access 450W+ BIOS modes.
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Kaarme:

This will be hilarious. Indeed, if they changed 4070 into 4080 12GB with a higher price, they obviously need a new 4070. It can only be 4060 Ti. The new 4060 Ti will then be what was supposed to be 4060. This would actually 100% explain the rumours of Nvidia's mainstream segment of the 4000 series bringing less performance increase than the flagship is expected to bring. Based on this, Nvidia must really expect AMD's 7000 series to suck long noodles. Or maybe Nvidia trusts nobody will switch over to AMD's side, no matter how pricey Nvidia's offerings are. Thanks to Intel's own failures to get anything onto the market, nobody expects anything from Intel anymore. Of course the other alternative is that the mainstream 4000 will suddenly become cheaper compared to the 3000 series, but that's something I'd need to see with my own eyes to believe.
It's very unlikely AMD 7000 series will suck long noodles. I bought a 6800 because i needed a 3440x1440p capable card and that's the only **** card that was available to buy and i've been 100% satisfied by the card so far. Adrenaline has improved a lot in the last 2 years and it's now i would say good drivers. They still need to improve ray tracing perf but it's not as bad as it was on the 5000 series and i expect them to close the gap again. I think the real question is not will 7000 series be good i think it will certainly be. AMD is definitely back in the game. But will AMD be aggressive on pricing and not cut the corners too much on their lower end cards again. Despite popular belief AMD is a publicly traded company and like all of those companies they don't give a crap about consumers. AMD will do what's best for shareholders and nVidia probably expect them to set the price as high as them which they certainly will.

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