Apple targets Epic Games, claiming that its store will not turn a profit until 2027.

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Ad hominem? Srsly? I would have thought Apple with its money would use a legal defence better than that...
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It's fun to see two multi-billion companies act like toddlers.
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But Apple is right this time. EGS suck and it's just a consumer trap. I always go GOG -> Steam -> gates of hell -> EGS.
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cpy2:

But Apple is right this time. EGS suck and it's just a consumer trap. I always go GOG -> Steam -> gates of hell -> EGS.
And yet you take their free games.
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That's an unusual defence for a company that is accused of using a monopoly to overcharge customers and vendors ... ie look how much profit Apple makes compared to the complainant. Only Apple and it's lawyers could be tone deaf enough to do that.
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cpy2:

But Apple is right this time. EGS suck and it's just a consumer trap. I always go GOG -> Steam -> gates of hell -> EGS.
no it's apple that sucks new phone can't use old charger and headphones,that fine for you ? a several thousand dollar pc can't be repaired ? but free games are worse than hell,right ? good grief people are dumb.
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Andy Watson:

That's an unusual defence for a company that is accused of using a monopoly to overcharge customers and vendors ... ie look how much profit Apple makes compared to the complainant. Only Apple and it's lawyers could be tone deaf enough to do that.
It is free market trade and Capitalism. Why should any government entity enforce a profit ceiling? The country is run by oligarchs afterall.
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Apple might be right in what they say, but that has actually nothing to do with the lawsuit / counter lawsuit, I'd believe. Maybe it has to do with it to a small extent, but the statement itself is just polemic.
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FFS Apple. It's none of your fucking business how Epic runs EGS. Hell, it doesn't do jack in proving anything.
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Undying:

And yet you take their free games.
It's not free. You rent their games, if we are taking about DRM-Protected games that are being claimed for "free". And it's not free, because you pay with your privacy by using EGS alone.
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TalentX:

It's not free. You rent their games, if we are taking about DRM-Protected games that are being claimed for "free". And it's not free, because you pay with your privacy by using EGS alone.
yes rent forever with no charge it's exactly what renting is you got a house to rent btw ? i'm interested
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cucaulay malkin:

yes rent forever with no charge it's exactly what renting is
For as long as Epic Games decides to keep the service running and for as long as they keep the conditions as it is now.
cucaulay malkin:

you got a house to rent btw ? i'm interested
No.
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TalentX:

For as long as Epic Games decides to keep the service running and for as long as they keep the conditions as it is now.
i'd still take that house in a blink
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Apple's lawyers are digging themselves in a hole by needlessly speculating Epic's profit margins. There are many counter-arguments that would hurt their integrity, as if ad-hominem alone wouldn't do that. Where they do have a valid argument is that their marketplace does warrant some value. Doesn't mean it's fair or that they should charge as much as they do, but part of what you (as either a consumer or a developer) are paying for when using their marketplace are the regulations and (as stupid as it sounds) exclusivity.
Undying:

And yet you take their free games.
EGS isn't the last store I'd get my games from but it is toward the bottom. I think I took 1 or 2 of the free games back when they first started doing that, only to realize I'm wasting my time as I'll probably never sign in; I haven't so far.
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schmidtbag:

EGS isn't the last store I'd get my games from but it is toward the bottom. I think I took 1 or 2 of the free games back when they first started doing that, only to realize I'm wasting my time as I'll probably never sign in; I haven't so far.
free egs games are one of the best i've recently played i'd never have purchased or even known about ruiner,and it was fantastic.same with road to eden - I don't even play turn based strategies and I enjoyed the hell out of it.Same for observer,imo the best and most overlooked cyberpunk games,very heavy and very good.alan wake,frostpunk,the whole batman series,borderlands,the whole darksiders series,qube,that's not even half of them. they're not giving away crap games like steam,there have been soooooo many great ones.a plague tale just recently.
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cucaulay malkin:

free egs games are one of the best i've recently played i'd never have purchased or even known about ruiner,and it was fantastic.same with road to eden - I don't even play turn based strategies and I enjoyed the hell out of it.Same for observer,imo the best and most overlooked cyberpunk games,very heavy and very good.alan wake,frostpunk,the whole batman series,borderlands,the whole darksiders series,qube,that's not even half of them. they're not giving away crap games like steam,there have been soooooo many great ones.a plague tale just recently.
I 100% agree - EGS gives away a lot of enticing games, some of which I've wanted to play before being freebies. Unlike a lot of people, I don't necessarily have a problem with EGS as-is. I do, however, dislike Epic in general (not strongly, but enough) and I barely have the time to play games I paid for, let alone free ones.
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schmidtbag:

I 100% agree - EGS gives away a lot of enticing games, some of which I've wanted to play before being freebies. Unlike a lot of people, I don't necessarily have a problem with EGS as-is. I do, however, dislike Epic in general (not strongly, but enough) and I barely have the time to play games I paid for, let alone free ones.
same problem all of the games,none of the time when I did have time all I played was like a million hours of quake 3 arena
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I've been playing Fortnite with my son (9), who is really into it. As a 43 year old, I'm surprised how much fun it is. I've probably put 200 hours into it over the last year and they got me to buy a few items from their shop. I can see why they're losing money hand-over-fist. Fortnite is this huge cash cow for them right now, and they can afford to burn the profits they're making from it to establish a foothold in the marketplace. I don't understand how anyone can think more competition is a bad thing...
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Its free. Gamecopyworld is still thriving. Get the EGS game, to go Gamecopyworld to get a free legal crack, no more EGS needed for game.