AMD's EPYC Bergamo: Cloud-Native CPU Based on Zen 4c Architecture

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Wasn't that long ago when 32c/64t seemed like a lot for a single CPU. Also, strange how they consider this an incremental bump to the architecture. Seems rather significant to me. I wonder if we'll see 16-core AM5 models with a single CCX soon. If AMD intends to do hybrid architectures, I figure this must be inevitable.
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I have a feeling zen5 will have zen5 "big" core and some kind of zen5c or even the zen4c it self for small cores .
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I have a feeling zen5 will have zen5 "big" core and some kind of zen5c or even the zen4c it self for small cores .
To add to that, I think it will also have some sort of hardware scheduler (like Intel is doing with director).
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More cores, less L3.