This will effectively kill low end GPUs, finally. And I'll probably get one, as GPU prices has gone ridiculous for so long and I'm not gonna spend that kind of money on a PC part ever.

Silva:

This will effectively kill low end GPUs, finally. And I'll probably get one, as GPU prices has gone ridiculous for so long and I'm not gonna spend that kind of money on a PC part ever.

Low end GPUs haven't been that good for gaming ever, though, unless you only play old or many indie games. A number of indie games already demand a decent graphics card, though. Consequently it has seemed to me that low end GPUs haven't been a priority for Nvidia and AMD for a long time now.

Lower end GPUs will still have a reason to exist because many want something better than integrated graphics without breaking the bank. The question is if Intel, AMD or Nvidia still want to provide them to gamers...

I think we already have an answer, and that answer is "buy older generation cards".

On package memory will make all the difference in the world. The Achille's heel of APUs is the very slow and high latency (comparatively to GPUs) main system memory, which is why they never get fast enough to beat even low-end GPUs. But... that thing may change in a massive way.

mackintosh:

I think we already have an answer, and that answer is "buy older generation cards".

Only if your power budget can manage. I personally have been waiting for a good entry-level GPU, where I've got this old 16:10 (LCD) iMac I received for free that I've been wanting to convert into a legit entry-level gaming PC. This thing is very constrained by space, so if I could have the performance of something like a RX 6600 XT but integrated into the CPU, that makes designing the PC a lot simpler. Fewer components to cool, no need for risers, no additional power cables, and quieter fans. Now that I think of it, I could probably go with one of the Nvidia Jetson boards, since Linux on ARM can now emulate x86 pretty well and those have beefy GPUs.

Since the first Ryzen APUs, we have a decent experience. Demanding gamers aren't of course going to be satisfied with that, still the market is and will be mostly for APUs. Discreet graphic cards owners are a minority.

Silva:

This will effectively kill low end GPUs, finally. And I'll probably get one, as GPU prices has gone ridiculous for so long and I'm not gonna spend that kind of money on a PC part ever.

Maybe, but the low end target moves all the time. My 5600G was low end at release, now it is almost useless as a APU. The 7040/8040 is the new low end right now, in 2 years also almost useless. 1080p low at 30 FPS. This medusa is going to be a really nice laptop APU, but my guess is still only around 1080p low at 60-90 FPS, when it releases. The medusa might be good enough for a 4k tv with heavy FSR, framegen and low settings.

yet more waste of silicon with useless igpu nobody asked for :v

Alessio1989:

yet more waste of silicon with useless igpu nobody asked for :v

? Asus has sold 500.000 ROG ally handhelds, Steam deck has sold 3 million and Nintendo switch is closing in on 140 million units. Every console available now is technically a APU with a IGPU. Saying that nobody asked for this is very out of touch with reality.

TLD LARS:

? Asus has sold 500.000 ROG ally handhelds, Steam deck has sold 3 million and Nintendo switch is closing in on 140 million units. Every console available now is technically a APU with a IGPU. Saying that nobody asked for this is very out of touch with reality.

in before another ryzen 7000 like shit igpu that barely holds a 4k 60 desktop refresh :V

Alessio1989:

in before another ryzen 7000 like crap igpu that barely holds a 4k 60 desktop refresh :V

It doesnt need to. For now, who needs 4k in a 7 inch screen anyway.

Alessio1989:

in before another ryzen 7000 like crap igpu that barely holds a 4k 60 desktop refresh :V

What 7000 IGPU are you referring to? The desktop 7800x3d IGPU is on the 6nm IO die and is 2 compute units of RDNA 2, presumably the IO die has very good yields, because it is very mature at this point and the GPU itself is very small with only 2 compute units. The total cost of this IGPU is very low, it is mostly a light office GPU and debug tool. This article about Medusa has more in common with the 7040/8040 series 780m IGPU/APU, the 780m is much more advanced on a newer note (4 nm), newer architecture (RDNA 3), more Compute units (12). These have a much higher cost, but there is a option to buy something else and there is also a full scavenging program with 4 different models depending on how defective the chip is. All in all very little money is wasted on "useless silicon" because the GPU is either super cheap to begin with or it is an option to opt out if the GPU is unwanted.