AMD ZEN3 for EPYC Milan Processors to gain 20% performance
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Maddness
I'm going to build a Zen 3 system for my son. His 4-core Intel system is in need of an upgrade. All the 3700x and X570 systems i have been building for work and friends are humming along nicely.
nizzen
Maybe it's time to upgrade the Threadripper 1950x soon 😀
Fox2232
Since 15% is from IPC, only 5% comes from clock => power efficiency will be same or better.
I intend to keep my "gaming" / "productivity" CPU till 2nd generation of AM5. (Till prices for DDR5 settle a bit.)
But if there is serious performance boost from better memory access with DDR5...
ACEB
I'm having to upgrade my rig so its looking like a 8 core zen3, 15% gains on single thread performance in gaming would be a huge win for AMD. I'm sure Intel will still be ahead if you want 1080p gaming at 240hz when they release their next stuff but Zen 3 is looking like a great set of cpus
Aura89
Fox2232
Aura89
Devid
If this comes out at least that well as it looks right now I will say goodbye to my current Intel build of mine.
Zen3 seems to be the best of cpu user can use with DDR4 for one more and maybe last time.
As DDR5 will be heavily overpriced for a generation or more Zen3 could be the one to 'survive' that waiting.
djmcave
olymind1
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-2021-2022-roadmap-with-codenames-leak-van-gogh-and-warhol.html
Unless that Warhol cpu will be Zen3+ or Zen4 and will/could use still DDR4, if it is even a mainstream cpu.
schmidtbag
I just wish I knew how CPU demanding next-gen games would be. Games tend to revolve around the capabilities of consoles, so, I only care about getting whatever can handily keep up and nothing more. I'm sure Zen3 will be more than good enough to outpace consoles, but in the likely event my X370 board won't offer an upgrade path, I might as well just wait for DDR5/AM5 so I'm not stuck on a dead-end platform.
Zen2 doesn't seem to care as much about RAM speed as the first two gens. I wouldn't be surprised if Zen3 isn't really any different.
JamesSneed
Fox2232
JamesSneed
Fediuld
msroadkill612
We see a curious paradigm shift atm, where an important segment of TR/workstation candidates, are "upgrading" to AM4.
.... except the lane constrained - right?
well maybe them too?
A pcie 4 gpu from amd or Nvidia, gets the same 16GB/s bandwidth from 8 lanes as the former pcie 3 gets from 16 lanes, netting the vast majority (even 8GB/s is rarely exceeded afaik), a spare precious 8 lanes.
olymind1
XenthorX
So while waiting on those upcoming ZEN3 Cpus from AMD i made a final CPU overclock session for my 5820k, after updating BIOS against Spectre, thought i had already done it.
In stress-test benchmark, my CPU is now pulling 220W, for a 6 cores/12 threads mind you, i'm beyond 3950X territory by 80Watts here.
As Haswell-e doesn't have "Intel® Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0" (Intel please...), you can't define per core ratio while overclocking..... Unless !
I just find out after 5 years that using "Intel Extreme Tuning Technlogy" i can set a per core overclock.
Long story short, my 5 years old CPU on 22nm now has its first core at 4.6Ghz and the 5 others at 4.5Ghz, with BCLK at 100.7 MHz, closing in on 8700K which is 3 years younger.
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/y8qggt/12
Now i hope it'll last at least 6 months, and then the whole rig is gonna hit the dust, even the H100i is starting to struggle.
edit edit: https://valid.x86.fr/bench/7xz29h
Fox2232
XenthorX