Which is weird considering Wii U is 3 core, rest of the consoles use 7 out of 8 for gaming. Well one day. One fine day they will add rudimentary multicore support at least.

Yeah, one fine day... and still too late, we need it now! 😀

If AMD delivers skylake performance I will surely buy one because I want to see something else when I boot up then intel word 😀 I think they can deliver they took back steps kind of like intel did when they massively failed to deliver with p4 and took p3 and improved on that design. So AMD went back what was succesful and fast and improved on that. They do know how much they need to deliver so I am hopeful.

Problem is, multi core support and low level access is lacking atm. Ports are lame and dx12 is still WAY too slow coming around to make us go for more cores right now. I hope this will change by the time that Zen hits the shelves, like end of this year or maybe 2017. Imagine a year in which AMD wins back 30% market share on both CPUs and APUs and another 30% market share with GPUs... good times 🙂

I would still prefer 4-8 very fast cores vs 32 super slow cores. Multicore support is still lacking and i am afraid that Intel will still come on top when Zen arrives.

A CPU with 32 cores would be only sold to server purposes, where every single core will be put to use by the kind of software servers are typically running. They aren't meant for home users playing games. The cores will have low MHz to begin with, because high clocks means more heat, which causes problems for big servers. AMD will sell 4-8 cores CPUs with high clocks to private consumers. Intel will no doubt come on top, but with much higher prices that won't be as justified anymore as they are right now when AMD isn't really a choice, unless you are trying to save every penny and cent.

I find it funny how people here think that they're considering buying this or pondering how it'll handle their current workload. It's a server CPU - neither the processor itself or the motherboard selections will interest any of you for your daily needs. As far as I'm aware, AMD intends to only release 4 and 8 core CPUs for desktops for the foreseeable future.

I find it funny how people here think that they're considering buying this or pondering how it'll handle their current workload. It's a server CPU - neither the processor itself or the motherboard selections will interest any of you for your daily needs. As far as I'm aware, AMD intends to only release 4 and 8 core CPUs for desktops for the foreseeable future.

Good point. Would be funny when 32 core chips start showing up in peoples sigs here.

I find it funny how people here think that they're considering buying this or pondering how it'll handle their current workload. It's a server CPU - neither the processor itself or the motherboard selections will interest any of you for your daily needs. As far as I'm aware, AMD intends to only release 4 and 8 core CPUs for desktops for the foreseeable future.

Have look many people have and running Xeon like on older X58(like me) or new X99 on daily basis... I'm not gaming on my PC and most of people who I know they use their Xeon more for professional work such as rendering where more core means faster render time and if this CPU will bring me current Xeon performance in multithreaded apps then I willing jump the ship,I'm on X58 for long enough and I was considering dual CPU X99 motherboard only due this Those server CPU are great in multithreaded apps and for gaming,we will see,but new E5 Xeons have good performance too in games,they're still option,but prices of MB and CPU can be bit out of reach for most of people Thanks,Jura

Have look many people have and running Xeon like on older X58(like me) or new X99 on daily basis... I'm not gaming on my PC and most of people who I know they use their Xeon more for professional work such as rendering where more core means faster render time and if this CPU will bring me current Xeon performance in multithreaded apps then I willing jump the ship,I'm on X58 for long enough and I was considering dual CPU X99 motherboard only due this Those server CPU are great in multithreaded apps and for gaming,we will see,but new E5 Xeons have good performance too in games,they're still option,but prices of MB and CPU can be bit out of reach for most of people Thanks,Jura

You're using a 6-core Xeon and a desktop motherboard. As you mentioned, you are not using this for gaming and it wouldn't surprise me if you have a separate system for things like media or checking your personal email. Xeons are designed for servers and workstations, not just servers. A 32-core CPU has no place for most workstations. Of course, there are exceptions. I don't suspect that this 32-core AMD CPU will be compatible with desktop parts. It might even require ECC RAM.

You're using a 6-core Xeon and a desktop motherboard. As you mentioned, you are not using this for gaming and it wouldn't surprise me if you have a separate system for things like media or checking your personal email. Xeons are designed for servers and workstations, not just servers. A 32-core CPU has no place for most workstations. Of course, there are exceptions. I don't suspect that this 32-core AMD CPU will be compatible with desktop parts. It might even require ECC RAM.

Hi there This is my main PC and I don't have another one,why I would want another one,there is no reason to have another one,when I render I can do most of the works For emails my good old BB is still enough and for media,this PC is more than enough 32 Core CPU does have place in workstation,if I could I would take that both hands,in rendering with most of the CPU based renderers this will speed up works tremendously If I will need to get server board like with newer Xeon then I would jump ship,if ECC are needed this can be issue,but nothing major,all depends on performance and price of course of new ZEN,without this I would only speculate on this,we don't know yet anything what is confirmed,until AMD will confirm,we can speculate,but for me,if AMD will release 32 core CPU and will be reasonable priced plus have good performance,then for me is done deal Hope this helps Thanks,Jura

This is my main PC and I don't have another one,why I would want another one,there is no reason to have another one,when I render I can do most of the works

I personally have 3 computers at home that I use regularly for different purposes. All of them would be considered medicore (or bad) by Guru3D standards, but they all handle everything I throw at them. All 3 of them combined are worse than your PC. But you shouldn't run 1 system for everything. Putting all of your eggs in 1 basket is costly in terms of parts, electricity, and system resources. Aside from that, if this 1 PC is your main source of income, it is extra devastating if something fails. Backups aren't the only thing that keep you going.

32 Core CPU does have place in workstation,if I could I would take that both hands,in rendering with most of the CPU based renderers this will speed up works tremendously

As I said before, there are exceptions. But generally speaking it is bad practice to have such a high-performance mission-critical system as a bare-metal workstation. If you really need the extra threads, use a dedicated server (or server farm) and run VMs. Better use of resources, reduces long-term maintenance, and decreases downtime should it ever happen. Then, if you don't need all that extra power, you could always shut down the server and save power.

2 bits would give them a placeholder big enough for 16 core CPU. 3 bits increases the maximum possible core count to 32. Choosing between 16 and 32 core count placeholder, they went with 32. Can have... maximum count....placeholder. None of this suggests that there will actually be 32 core CPU. The next line shows the socket ID being shifted left by 3, leaving 3 bits for the core complex ID, which suggests a maximum number of eight core complexes per socket, or 32 physical cores. This number should first be seen as a placeholder, but we've already seen rumours mentioning that many cores

Good point. Would be funny when 32 core chips start showing up in peoples sigs here.

If I had use for it, I would have already dual socket Opterons as they are not exactly expensive.

As much as i want it to happen, i dont know how people can expect "skylake performance" for Zen. really guys,if AMD is going to beat Ivy bridge and matches here and there haswell, it is a HUGE step for them and it might mean that they are on the right track...

Well for starters Jim Keller. Secondly, if Zen doesn't compete with Skylake, AMD is dead. They need substantial debt repayment by 2019. They currently pay nearly the same amount on interest for their loans as they do R&D for the entire company. Both Polaris and Zen need to be smash hits or it's over for them. Zen can't be a huge step, it needs to be a 40' ladder.

I personally have 3 computers at home that I use regularly for different purposes. All of them would be considered medicore (or bad) by Guru3D standards, but they all handle everything I throw at them. All 3 of them combined are worse than your PC. But you shouldn't run 1 system for everything. Putting all of your eggs in 1 basket is costly in terms of parts, electricity, and system resources. Aside from that, if this 1 PC is your main source of income, it is extra devastating if something fails. Backups aren't the only thing that keep you going. As I said before, there are exceptions. But generally speaking it is bad practice to have such a high-performance mission-critical system as a bare-metal workstation. If you really need the extra threads, use a dedicated server (or server farm) and run VMs. Better use of resources, reduces long-term maintenance, and decreases downtime should it ever happen. Then, if you don't need all that extra power, you could always shut down the server and save power.

Hi there I'm using this PC for everything,I'm running on this PC like Hackintosh for making music or graphic Its doesn't matter if yours PC are worse than mine or G3D standard as I always saying,everyone is different and if we will be all same,world will be boring place and mainly not everyone have money to upgrade to new architecture every year or so,I just can't justify to upgrade to new platform every year etc,I've bought Titan X only due the price as my friend has been selling this card and I bought this card for dirty cheap money,new Titan X is out of my reach I've tried too i7-4790k,which I sold right away as performance in rendering hasn't been better than my old X5670 and X58,yes SATA 3 etc plus AVX is great upgrade,but hasn't worth it If its worth to put everything on one PC,hard to say there,PC runs cool as cucumber and never have any issue although few days ago,my UD3R has died,but this is probably most unreliable motherboard which I owned,but those MB are known for issues I can really say from my point of view there,I know several professionals which use dual sever motherboards in their workstations and my friend running 72 HT dual Xeon and this PC is used as daily PC and he using this PC most of the time for rendering or Plex etc Regarding the server farm,this I would want,but i don't have place where to put few of PC,I've few spare MB and CPU and I can build few of them,but right now I don't have place where to put everything and if I would have place I would probably invest to something server blades again based on earlier X58 This would be great,but right now I can't have this and backups yes agree,I've lost 2 3TB Seagate in quick succession and those two HDD has have most of my works :bang: Thanks,Jura

2016-2017 is meant to be the year(s) that multi-core/multi-threading will become the norm. It's been slow in taking hold but with the inclusion of DX12 and Windows 10 then i'm hoping that this year will see a huge increase in apps/games that are fully multi-threaded. I think the uptake of Win 10 has a lot to do with it. If we could get everyone on Win 10 then i'm sure multi-threading will be in everything eventually.

500 W TDP confirmed.

As much as i want it to happen, i dont know how people can expect "skylake performance" for Zen. really guys,if AMD is going to beat Ivy bridge and matches here and there haswell, it is a HUGE step for them and it might mean that they are on the right track...

Well the best amd cpus now do match ivy/sandy somewhat. And in other apps they beat these cpus.

Hi there I'm using this PC for everything,I'm running on this PC like Hackintosh for making music or graphic Its doesn't matter if yours PC are worse than mine or G3D standard as I always saying,everyone is different and if we will be all same,world will be boring place and mainly not everyone have money to upgrade to new architecture every year or so,I just can't justify to upgrade to new platform every year etc,I've bought Titan X only due the price as my friend has been selling this card and I bought this card for dirty cheap money,new Titan X is out of my reach I've tried too i7-4790k,which I sold right away as performance in rendering hasn't been better than my old X5670 and X58,yes SATA 3 etc plus AVX is great upgrade,but hasn't worth it If its worth to put everything on one PC,hard to say there,PC runs cool as cucumber and never have any issue although few days ago,my UD3R has died,but this is probably most unreliable motherboard which I owned,but those MB are known for issues I can really say from my point of view there,I know several professionals which use dual sever motherboards in their workstations and my friend running 72 HT dual Xeon and this PC is used as daily PC and he using this PC most of the time for rendering or Plex etc Regarding the server farm,this I would want,but i don't have place where to put few of PC,I've few spare MB and CPU and I can build few of them,but right now I don't have place where to put everything and if I would have place I would probably invest to something server blades again based on earlier X58 This would be great,but right now I can't have this and backups yes agree,I've lost 2 3TB Seagate in quick succession and those two HDD has have most of my works :bang: Thanks,Jura

This. I'm using X58 (still) because newer intel chipsets just aren't worth the upgrade in performance I'd see. My 4GHz 6-core with HT is as powerful as an OCed quad core, maybe using a bit more power, but inconsequential in terms of heating etc. Just upgrade GFX as and when things die/a suitable replacement comes out.

There 0 mentions its server's CPU. Just because there library that handles CPU on linux, doesn't mean this CPU designed for servers. You can run "le linux server" with your 2500k. Edit: threads like this with little background info and people rushing with their opinions create chaos. Gonna step out.

There 0 mentions its server's CPU. Just because there library that handles CPU on linux, doesn't mean this CPU designed for servers. You can run "le linux server" with your 2500k. Edit: threads like this with little background info and people rushing with their opinions create chaos. Gonna step out.

This is exactly why I don't understand why Guru3D posts these articles. They post some articles regarding server hardware, but miss out on a bunch of others that are just as interesting (if not more). This is a server CPU, regardless of what this article says. Look up "AMD 32 core Zen" and you'll find sources stating it is either for servers or referred to as an Opteron, which has always been AMD's server (and sometimes workstation) series. Here's one source: http://fudzilla.com/news/processors/37564-the-next-generation-opteron-has-32-zen-x86-cores Also, just because something runs Linux that doesn't make it a server... My gaming system runs linux. Just about every smart TV runs Linux. Android is linux-based. The vast majority of devices that run Linux are not servers, and a very large percent of servers don't run Linux. So yeah, let's not jump to conclusions that people are making opinions with little background.

AMD always do some bull$H!t about they upcoming release,at the end all is far beyond expectation when comes to real world:bang: don't know who made this rumor,marketing or fan boy:bonk:

http://i.imgur.com/GDyOS.png All jokes aside I really hope Zen is going to be something.