Hmm nvidia invented something, AMD copied it, as everytime .. What that AMD invented last time, its long time ago? Yeah Mantle - already dead technology. It is same with RayTracing, ATI never tried even make own alternative PhysX.. no even Hairworks. Well, ATI has i afaik some better HDMI and DVI settings for some retro stuff, but also much more glitches in these old games. Sense of ATI would be nice to keep Nvidia prices down, but they are failing it too, because their prices are almost the same, for almost same performance and less features and inventions. It seems to me that only ones who loves ATI are just some old terminal maniacs (Linux admins, there are very just normal desktop users) + open source preachers, because ATI open drivers and tools and Nvidia dont (Nouvea is joke) and MacOS guys, because Apple only support ATI cards in modern OSes, last Nvidia drivers are for 10.13 or so..

Mantle isnt dead. It was used as a basis for vulkan. Vulkan is used alot in emulation and wine/proton gaming plus some AAA games. AMD does have alot of software for physics, look at gpuopen.com and search for femfx, tressfx just to name afew. They might not be advertising it like nvidia does there gameworks bloatware. Having excellent opensource drivers does not mean AMD inferior in any way. If you like monopolistic corporations like nvidia so much, why are you complaining about price ?

ruthan:

It seems to me that only ones who loves ATI are just some old terminal maniacs (Linux admins, there are very just normal desktop users) + open source preachers, because ATI open drivers and tools and Nvidia dont (Nouvea is joke) and MacOS guys, because Apple only support ATI cards in modern OSes, last Nvidia drivers are for 10.13 or so..

The fact you keep saying "ATI" shows how you're willfully closed-minded and living in the past. ATI hasn't been a thing in 15 years. AMD's open-source drivers (and Intel's, for that matter) at this point are almost better than the Windows drivers - they're often faster despite lacking application-specific optimizations, they take up hardly any disk space, and they often support features Windows doesn't. Just recently, pre-Navi GPUs got experimental access to Vulkan raytracing. On Linux, the 6800XT is overall better than the RTX 3080. It's not even a matter of supporting open source, it's just a better option. In Windows, AMD is harder to justify, but still a sensible choice, before hardware got stupidly expensive. As for Nouveau, are you not aware that is almost entirely developed by volunteers? Nvidia basically doesn't want that project to exist, because it involves reverse-engineering. The fact Nouveau works as well as it does is amazing.

hammadnadeemx:

Mantle isnt dead. It was used as a basis for vulkan. Vulkan is used alot in emulation and wine/proton gaming plus some AAA games. AMD does have alot of software for physics, look at gpuopen.com and search for femfx, tressfx just to name afew. They might not be advertising it like nvidia does there gameworks bloatware. Having excellent opensource drivers does not mean AMD inferior in any way. If you like monopolistic corporations like nvidia so much, why are you complaining about price ?

Yes, Mantle is dead. It served its purpose as a proof-of-concept, and its corpse has been looted for the sake of bettering DX12 and Vulkan. It's not alive just because Vulkan is used. AMD does have a lot of technologies, but most of them aren't widely adopted, and most of them were created mostly as a checkbox against Nvidia.

schmidtbag:

Yes, Mantle is dead. It served its purpose as a proof-of-concept, and its corpse has been looted for the sake of bettering DX12 and Vulkan. It's not alive just because Vulkan is used. AMD does have a lot of technologies, but most of them aren't widely adopted, and most of them were created mostly as a checkbox against Nvidia.

I'd go even further, I'd say Mantle wasn't in vain at all, it is still alive through Dx12 and Vulkan, and nVidia had to adapt to it. Also FreeSync is more and more common, since it's a VESA standard now (VESA Adaptive-Sync), unlike G-Sync, which seems to be less and less relevant. I'm guessing that ruthan is just not very aware of current technologies and their real-world usage.