AMD Takes Good CPU Share from Intel in Q2 2017

Solfaur

2017-07-03 18:53

I was wondering what he thought the graph showed. Or perhaps he meant something else.

I meant the gap of market share between Intel and AMD, which according to that graph will get smaller as AMD gains and Intel loses.

#5449071

robintson

2017-07-03 19:17

Good job AMD and keep going up with the CPU market share. Ryzen is a great cpu, only if it could get higher frequencies , then it could even beat Intel CPUs in performance. The prices of the CPUs will not change overnight , but right now with AMD CPUs people get much higher value for their money, while Intel still has high CPU prices as usual.

#5449072

Emille

2017-07-03 19:19

I hope they push the limits with this tech and they double down in core count every 2 years. Enough of this core stagnation. The sooner they make cpus with 100 threads the sooner every background process can have a bunch of threads all to itself etc. Once we reach that stage core speed with be next to irrelevant if things are programmed for the new standard by then.

#5449073

Mufflore

2017-07-03 19:19

I meant the gap of market share between Intel and AMD, which according to that graph will get smaller as AMD gains and Intel loses.

Unfortunately they have wrongly labelled the graph as "AMD vs Intel Market Share". The graph is submissions of hardware used to run their benchmark. They show the quarters results before the quarter is over. It isnt always a safe measure of the users of their software and certainly not of marketshare.

#5449076

Solfaur

2017-07-03 19:31

Unfortunately they have wrongly labelled the graph as "AMD vs Intel Market Share". The graph is submissions of hardware used to run their benchmark. They show the quarters results before the quarter is over. It isnt always a safe measure of the users of their software and certainly not of marketshare.

Oh, I see. Either way, I'm glad AMD is back on track in the CPU department. It's been years since I even considered going anything other than Intel.

#5449095

Loophole35

2017-07-03 20:45

Are pricing rumors floating around yet? They've been pretty accurate so far.

From what I've heard manufacturing cost is higher on TR boards.

#5449113

risc32

2017-07-03 21:32

what happened around 2006?

#5449120

Chillin

2017-07-03 21:42

what happened around 2006?

Core 2, AMD never recovered

#5449122

XenthorX

2017-07-03 21:53

I hope they push the limits with this tech and they double down in core count every 2 years. Enough of this core stagnation. The sooner they make cpus with 100 threads the sooner every background process can have a bunch of threads all to itself etc. Once we reach that stage core speed with be next to irrelevant if things are programmed for the new standard by then.

I'm afraid we will all use cloud computing by then. Just like some Overwatch pro team using high performance cloud gaming solution.

#5449124

Mufflore

2017-07-03 21:55

Core 2, AMD never recovered

Thats what ended my AMD days on CPU and I bought 5, maybe 6 AMD CPUs in a row before that. They still havent given me reason to change back.

#5449163

Troll Slayer

2017-07-03 23:13

Daily numbers These are Q3 daily numbers for three days: 31%, 24%, 27% Q1 = 18.1% Q2 = 20.6% So Q3 off to a bang for AMD, with OEMs building Ryzen systems now, not just DIY. So far looking like high 20s for Q3, doubling the gains from Q1 to Q2.

#5449167

Mufflore

2017-07-03 23:20

These are Q3 daily numbers for three days: 31%, 24%, 27% Q1 = 18.1% Q2 = 20.6% So Q3 off to a bang for AMD, with OEMs building Ryzen systems now, not just DIY. So far looking like high 20s for Q3, doubling the gains from Q1 to Q2.

Where are the figures from?

#5449168

Andrew LB

2017-07-03 23:21

This article is deceptive at best. How could AMD capture 10% when they weren't even selling a chip under $329 until half way through the quarter? The problem with PC mark is its a self selected survey of not just enthusiasts, but enthusiasts who specifically benchmark their PC's using PC mark software. That is not a good indicator of the overall market. The true market share gain is likely somewhere between 1-2% https://seekingalpha.com/article/4085523-amd-gain-10-percent-market-share-quarter

#5449176

mameira

2017-07-04 00:12

This article is deceptive at best. How could AMD capture 10% when they weren't even selling a chip under $329 until half way through the quarter? The problem with PC mark is its a self selected survey of not just enthusiasts, but enthusiasts who specifically benchmark their PC's using PC mark software. That is not a good indicator of the overall market. The true market share gain is likely somewhere between 1-2% https://seekingalpha.com/article/4085523-amd-gain-10-percent-market-share-quarter

Well, since people keep saying that "this means that the market share of passmark users increased for AMD", I'll try to correct this absurd excuse. Market research are based on a small amount of people, for instance, for a country with 18 million citizens, it will take about 1500 people to know how your product will perform among the 18 million, the margin of error is VERY small. So, AMD did take a lot ( 2-5% is a lot of market share ) of market share from Intel, even if the report comes from a benchmark, steam or pornhub. Regards

#5449178

Mufflore

2017-07-04 00:16

Well, since people keep saying that "this means that the market share of passmark users increased for AMD", I'll try to correct this absurd excuse. Market research are based on a small amount of people, for instance, for a country with 18 million citizens, it will take about 1500 people to know how your product will perform among the 18 million, the margin of error is VERY small. So, AMD did take a lot ( 2-5% is a lot of market share ) of market share from Intel, even if the report comes from a benchmark, steam or pornhub. Regards

Perhaps you can state how reliable an indicator this benchmark presents. There must be a reason you put a foundation in it. As you are quoting %, how reliable in % is it? regards

#5449181

Troll Slayer

2017-07-04 00:26

why do I need a title? Passmark chart Google "cpubenchmark CPU market share" for the link since I can't paste it in until I have 5 posts, evidently. 31%, 24%, 27%(26.6 to be exact for today) for the first 3 days of Q3. Everyone is mis-reporting it, but first 3 days are really good still.

#5449200

sykozis

2017-07-04 01:36

Are there credible articles about that?

Being that gamers using Steam make up a small percentage of the PC market, it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain that Steam hardware survey does not produce accurate numbers.

I meant the gap of market share between Intel and AMD, which according to that graph will get smaller as AMD gains and Intel loses.

That graph is based on PassMark benchmark result submissions. Being that the figures are based on benchmark result submissions, the numbers only mean that more AMD users are submitting results now, compared to last quarter. The figures are completely meaningless in regards to actual market share or sales.

#5449204

mameira

2017-07-04 01:44

Perhaps you can state how reliable an indicator this benchmark presents. There must be a reason you put a foundation in it. As you are quoting %, how reliable in % is it? regards

I mean, is not that crazy to take this information as reliable, it's not extremely accurate, but it is reliable. AMD did take an important share from Intel, it's not 10%, but they did take around 2-5%

#5449206

Mufflore

2017-07-04 01:53

I mean, is not that crazy to take this information as reliable, it's not extremely accurate, but it is reliable. AMD did take an important share from Intel, it's not 10%, but they did take around 2-5%

Can you prove all of what you just stated as fact?

#5449208

sykozis

2017-07-04 02:02

I mean, is not that crazy to take this information as reliable, it's not extremely accurate, but it is reliable. AMD did take an important share from Intel, it's not 10%, but they did take around 2-5%

These results mean nothing in regards to actual market share. It's based solely on people submitting benchmark results. All it shows is that more people are submitting benchmark results for AMD hardware now, than they were last quarter....or fewer Intel users are submitting results. Considering how long the current Intel hardware has been available, it's not inconceivable to believe that submissions from Intel users has simply dropped off.