AMD surpassed Intels market share in desktop processors

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#5874281
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I honestly though this was never possible. I think this is only going to get worse for intel. In few years time situation will be otherway around compared to 2010's.
#5874282
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No surprise there. Intel will not catch up soon. It will be up to 2022 and still they will be lagging behind in terms of technology. Good work AMD
#5874287
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The devil is building a snowman!
#5874288
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@Hilbert Hagedoorn While I love AMD doing well I don't think we can read to much into PassMark's stats other than to say hard core enthusiasts that would run PassMark benchmarks after a build are choosing AMD more.
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A two player market is on the horizon. A little competition between AMD and Intel will spurn better pricing and a urge to bring new technology to market. It is a win - win situation the way I see it.
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Finally, such a huge milestone!
#5874295
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I would take this info with a pinch of salt tbh.
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Valkyr09:

No surprise there. Intel will not catch up soon. It will be up to 2022 and still they will be lagging behind in terms of technology. Good work AMD
I'm not so sure of that. Intel is currently very behind, but so far their next-gen stuff seems like some decent competition. Sure, AMD still has plenty of time to respond to that, but I can't imagine they're going to pull another 15% performance lead over last gen (though I'd love to be proven wrong).
Stormyandcold:

I would take this info with a pinch of salt tbh.
Why?
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schmidtbag:

Why?
Because it's from a benchmark. Pretty obvious.
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It's good news for AMD, long may the competition continue. Would be worth remembering it's not a zero sum game as market continuing to expand, and the supply squeeze from AMD will keep Intel in the game
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AMD should prepare for another 15 years of losing to intel then...big things are coming... by the way desktops sales are nothing compare to mobile ones... so...
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Imagine how much more AMD would lead if they actually had CPU's in stock? How many people wanting an upgrade have just said screw it and went with a 10xxx Intel instead of waiting or paying scalpers?
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Stormyandcold:

Because it's from a benchmark. Pretty obvious.
It is from a benchmark but it's a lot of data collected over a long period of time. I'm sure it's correlated to actual sales numbers. That being said, this doesn't mean AMD actually has a higher market share, but, they're on their way to it.
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Not surprising at all considering how popular Ryzens are in Amazon best buy lists for example. If you take German, UK and US Amazon, it's usually at least 2:1 to AMD in the top 20 best sellers (it's actually 3: 1 on UK Amazon, in Germany, it's currently 11:9 to Intel, maybe because of higer prices - usually the German Amazon is the highest % towards AMD out of the 3 mentioned countries, it's an exception now), in the top 10 best sellers, it's usually 7 or 8 AMD against 2 or 3 Intels. In the top 5, it's 4 AMD against 1 Intel (currently 3-2 in Germany). In the top 3, there are usually only Ryzens (2-1 in Germany atm).
favelle75:

Imagine how much more AMD would lead if they actually had CPU's in stock? How many people wanting an upgrade havsve just said screw it and went with a 10xxx Intel instead of waiting or paying scalpers?
And have CPUs below MSRP! Ryzen 3600 was way under $200 months ago, now it's MSRP priced with $200. Yet, they are still selling like hot cakes.
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ViperAnaf:

AMD should prepare for another 15 years of losing to intel then...big things are coming... by the way desktops sales are nothing compare to mobile ones... so...
Fanboi ? Amd is catching up on the Mobile front as well dont forget compared to Intel they are Tiny plus they play on GPU, Server and CPU fronts, currently they beat Intel on pretty much all fronts and the new Mobile chips will counter Intels new releases, the main issue is not the chips etc its the Incentives Intel passed on and still do to this Day toi advertise more and use inferior specced screens etc with AMD CPUs however the tide is very much on the turn and suppliers cannot ignore the customer who pays for the product they want
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favelle75:

Imagine how much more AMD would lead if they actually had CPU's in stock? How many people wanting an upgrade have just said screw it and went with a 10xxx Intel instead of waiting or paying scalpers?
Intel has had its giant share of troubles trying to get below the 14nm node, but on the other hand, they still can manufacture more than AMD can get out of TSMC, which is supplying too many other customers as well. The situation would look quite a bit different if GF actually had stayed in the race and maintained a competitive edge. Considering how TSMC is making historical profits, it's quite bizarre how GlobalFoundries so casually decided to drop out of the frontier business and settle for the nameless sector. Imagine how it would be if GF had a fully functional 7nm process facility and AMD basically got most of its production capability. AMD might still have TSMC make the GPUs, for example, but Zen CPUs would have a vastly supply and the important mobile APUs could also be manufactured in sufficient quantities to satisfy the various laptop makers. But, alas, no. GF wasn't interested in doing business.
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Undying:

I honestly though this was never possible. I think this is only going to get worse for intel. In few years time situation will be otherway around compared to 2010's.
Luckily, Intel isn't short on R&D after the years of profits they claimed from locking out AMD of oem sales and AMD's bulldozer mis-step. Hopefully whatever they got out of Jim Keller and whatever they get out of Raja Koduri on the GPU-side will keep them competitive.
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I_Eat_You_Alive:

A two player market is on the horizon. A little competition between AMD and Intel will spurn better pricing and a urge to bring new technology to market. It is a win - win situation the way I see it.
Three, ARM based cpu's are getting more and more competitive - e.g. the apple one, or the latest big multi-core server ones are right up there with anything in x86. It is quite possible they will start to take over the server market, and push up from chromebooks into the laptop market too.
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Undying:

I honestly though this was never possible. I think this is only going to get worse for intel. In few years time situation will be otherway around compared to 2010's.
"This" is misleading, its only correct in that amd has surpassed market sales for this cycle, not share.
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schmidtbag:

It is from a benchmark but it's a lot of data collected over a long period of time. I'm sure it's correlated to actual sales numbers. That being said, this doesn't mean AMD actually has a higher market share, but, they're on their way to it.
How many general PC users use passmark? Or even know what it is for that matter

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