AMD Ryzen CPU Photos Surface
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HeavyHemi
Considering we've both posted mechanical design drawings, why would you think I am unaware of the basic design behind the LGA socket? And again, I'm not seeing your argument. It's pointless to you, but apparently some brilliant minds believe otherwise. 🙂
Aura89
I've done this before but it didn't damage anything (i was taking the heatsink off and it was a little...baked on). Only time i have damaged the pins are when i....well...dropped it.
Didusieq
Waiting, and waiting, and waiting. :E
Præses
People complaining about pins on the CPU? Under which rock have you lived? It's only been since LGA 775 that there hasn't been any on INTEL CPUs. I've never had issues with pins on either mobo or CPU. It's probably easier to unbend a pin on a CPU if you should be so unlucky to have one bent (never had that issue).
Although the Ryzen release has me excited - I'm really looking forward to the APUs to be released in the 2H of 2017. Should make awesome HTPCs/laptops.
Ricepudding
Don't see why anyone would moan about pins... either its on the CPU or the Motherboard. doesn't make too much difference. though it might be easier to fix them on the CPU rather than the motherboard.
KissSh0t
Didn't intel change the pins the way they are now because of the cpu coolers they were using ripping out the processor from the socket?
I remember breaking an intel cpu this way xD
DARKSF
Remember their pins were twice thiner than the AMD ones ? 🙂 I've had alot of troubles with P4s and their stock cooler with their stock thermal grease that was becoming stronger than the strongest glue i know.
Not only i was unable to pull out the cooler witihout the processor despite my best tries but afterwards it was really hard and to remove the CPU from the heatsink without damaging it.Well any way i was able always to fix the bend pins but it was pain in the ass.
Almost never had this problem with K7 , K8 and K10 AMD platforms their stock thermal grease was first not that strong as a glue so i was always able to break free the heatsink by gently rotating it clockwise and counter clockwise until i feel it is free and second their pins were always twice or 3 times thicker than the Intel P4 ones in the only case i pulled out the AMD with the heatsink i bent only one row and very slightly.
Any way i personally don't care that much PGA or LGA but so far i was never able to fix bend LGA pin they broke in 3 out of 3 of my attempts to bend them back in possition.
gianluca
I like pins on cpu and I'm really happy to see Zen using this solution. 🙂
Turanis
Whats wrong with the pins in the MB socket? 😉
As long as the performance is great:
RYZen Up!
AlmondMan
No idea why people think pins on the CPU are a bad thing... I mean sure, you might bend one if you're a clutz. I did once, and I just unbent it... sure, you can't keep doing that, it'll eventually snap, but you generally shouldn't be taking in and out your CPU all the time, soooo.
reeven
intel fanboys find all sort of bugs on zen, like cpu pins, like single thread perf, like power, like too cheap, to many cores etc.
When Zen appear we get back on the track.
My best friend an intel maniac, says to me that he never will use an amd, but back in the days he used them alot.
In his mind those with amd play maybe Tetris or so.....those are intel fanboys.
Im the fan of my money, if zen is cheaper then same intel, i choose zen.
WTF an 1000$ an cpu? With that money i get another subwoofer...we never get enough of them.
And today with games like watch dogs 2 we need many cores.
Neo Cyrus
It's naive to think Intel does anything ever for anything other than profit. They removed the pins from their CPUs to cut costs and no other real reason. They give zero ****s about durability or practicality, only profit.
It "feels" nice to have the pins on the mobo rather than the CPU so we don't have to worry so much about damaging pins when installing or removing a CPU... But the reality is it's probably more dangerous that way, how much pressure and how many reinsertions of the CPU can motherboard pins actually take? I saw someone post that the specifications (from Intel?) state 15 times. Even though in reality it's probably more than that, that's still worrying for someone like myself who needs to repeatedly remove the CPU.
Yeah, if you pull a heatsink directly up it's going to rip it out of the socket, I did that the first time, but that's not going to really damage it. Not to mention that's only an issue for inexperienced users who are removing the heatsink. Most people never deal with that sort of thing and those who do, like us, learn.
vbetts
Moderator
All hail the square millipede!
Joking aside, pins on the cpu versus pins on the board don't make a bit of difference to me. I cannot wait for Ryzen!
H83
I think i´ve read somewhere that Intel has some type of patent or legal rights regarding the cpu socket design and they don´t want to share them with AMD... But i really don´t know if this is true.
Anyway i just want one thing from AMD: the 1600X, or 1500 if the 1600 is too expensive, and i want it now!!!
So give it to me AMD and i will gladly change to the dark side!
Loophole35
Was always under the impression Intel/Nvidia were the dark side?
H83
In reallity they are but AMD also has a dark side that started with Phenom and their Black Edition cpus...:roll:
It´s funny but in a way Intel and Nvidia appear to be the good ones but in reality they are the bad ones and AMD is the other way around, they look bad and dark but they are actually the good ones! Like so many things in life that appear to be something and are the opposite.
zer0_c0ol
Cheaper boards
Loophole35
I don't think any of them are good or bad. Anyone that buys into that mentality would definitely fall into the fanboy population. They are companies that's soul purpose is to make money. Don't think for a minute that if AMD were in the technology lead and Nvidia and Intel were playing "catch up" that AMD would not be running your wallet through the ringer.
nz3777
Are they going to have the (Ryzen) writing on them like that??? I think it looks really cool if they keep em like that!
0blivious
Pins on CPU is only a possible issue the moment you install it and when storing extra CPUs (which only geeks like us would do), so not really a major concern.
Pins are safer on the board. Chances of bending them are much higher when on a tiny chip than within a massive motherboard. I suspect the cost isn't really significant either way.
I can throw around Intel chips (well, sort of) but AMD chips will still need to be stored in a custom foam tray, suspended midair in a vacuum at precisely 70.02 degrees fahrenheit to prevent pin damage.
Intel is doing this a little better, AMD should follow suit.
...meanwhile, bring Ryzen on.
