AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D -1080p and 720p gaming gets tested
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moab600
Seems like the L3 cache has big benefits or just on par which is also good.
Can't wait for the reviews, though i wish AMD would par the 5950X with 3D cache as well.
mohiuddin
Wow awesome performance.
But should have to let the alderlake stretch its performance to its full potential using ddr5 ram with tight timing .
moab600
Probably the 5800X3D gonna lead idk about how much, but the 5800X3D could be a huge seller for all those AM4 users who need a good gaming CPU without upgrading the whole system.
~AngusHades~
And this is why you shouldn't review computer hardware: most, if not all, consumers what to see stock vs stock. Ninety-nine per cent of consumers are not interested in anything else. They want the freedom from what the PC offers but the plug and play of a console.
nizzen
3200c14 on Intel in 2022 🙄
We used 3200 c14 on Ryzen 1700x/1800x 😛
Pretty cute to make a bottleneck on the memory. 3200mhz on Alderlake is even worse than using 2133mhz c21 on Ryzen 5 series.... Guess they had to do something to get a clickbait topic 😀
mohiuddin
No i don't think.
Look at these results
https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/2402/bench/SotTR1.png
These are memory scaling in alderlake processor across-the-board
nizzen
It that scenario, there is another bottleneck. Pleace try again 😉
nizzen
So you are the Amd fanboy here? 🙄
I'm just a performance fanboy. Don't care about color or name. Neither should you 🙂
Horus-Anhur
Those performance numbers are really impressive stuff.
nizzen
12700k with fast memory just "a bit" faster than 5800x3d:
Unlucky....
mohiuddin
True that. But i don't think intel cpu will be more capped by ram bandwidth and latency any mora than that of ryzen counterparts. Hard to find evidence. Provide any if u have some from ur end
barrybondz
As someone who owns a 12900K and has ran tests on the witcher 3, border lands 3, shadow of tomb raider. These results are way off from my numbers. I literally just posted a SS of settings for settings of 720P and obliterated the 5800x3d results. If these numbers are accurate, I am not impressed at all.
Kaarme
If someone can buy that expensive 12900KF, he should have the money to get good DDR5 as well. Who would even build a PC with such a CPU and then go for DDR4? In fact nobody should build an Alder Lake PC using DDR4, period, except for the snake oil "Gaming PC" OEM builders plaguing Internet marketplaces. Of course this is nothing but my personal opinion.
Edit: Considering this comparison, both CPUs should have what's reasonably available fast memory for the particular CPU. Not necessarily custom ordered from the factory fastest seen in the world Nizzen-class memory, but what shops carry.
rl66
But AMD complete system is less expensive.
Talking about memory some things to remind:
-DDR5 isn't at it's full potential and is more expensive than DDR4, and still hard to found at reasonable CL.
-Intel CPU do already great result with stock CPU speed ram (and so can be happy with standard speed).
-AMD CPU love fast mem (DDR4 3200 with Zen, 3600 with Zen2, 4000 with Zen3) due to their conception.
So in the end, those result just show that the 5800X3D have it's 3D cache that work better than what i was thinking, and that's all...
No winner here, as the test is biased by too many things.
Let's wait for a real review before starting a fanboy war (as always when a new CPU or GPU is launched 🙂 lol )
TheDeeGee
Stability is also important.
The 5800X build i had for a short time last year in January was nothing but 2 weeks of crashing.
My current 11700 build from March last year has been crash free ever since.
~AngusHades~
I wouldn't, but there are plenty on overclock.net doing that. The performance isn't much better on good DDR5 compared to good DDR4. Both tuned off course.
~AngusHades~
Sounds like a You problem.
nizzen
4266c14 gear 1 capable ddr4 are more expensive than ddr5 😛 Even that good imc is hard to find.
I'm using some cheap green dell hynix ddr5. 7000c30 easy on air.
My g.skill 6400c32 is twice the price, and are just abit better. Maybe 7200 is ny imc wall for 100% stability
nizzen
Search "agesa whea" problem 😛
I'm on my #22 bios on X570 dark Hero... Stable now, but had a "few" hickups with 5900x and 5950x...
11900k was 100% stable from first bios.
TheDeeGee
Definitely not.
