I wanted to get an upgrade for my 8700k to maybe have 8 core or more but after looking through these benchmarks for games its looks like i dont need to since this cpu has hardly much better fps than what i have, my cpu is even oc to 4.7ghz on all cores, maybe i'll just wait till intel move to 7 or 10nm cpu in few years, i do like how amd is a lot more power efficient though

Just an opinion feel free to disagree :> 5800X is the warmest of them all, just like the 3800X was. So there is really very little room to improve it without dropping the all core speed and also power consumption is already very close to 5900X and 5950X because of that all core speed. So a 5800X with higher boost clocks would mean lower all core clock, because honestly I think all AMD CPU chips have same/similar quality now. There is just working cores and not working cores, that is why they started to use the chiplet design in the first place. Because they want to use as many as possible working ones. Another thing that points to all being same/similar quality is that they all overclock to about same all core speed. Maybe some overclock 100MHz higher than others if lucky, but I think that goes for all the AMD 5xx0X CPUs, except 5900X is held back by heat and even more so on the 5950X. So I think 5600X, 5800X, 5900X and 5950X are all same quality but different setup. If something is going to get binned that would be for EPYC and maybe high end Threadripper. They could fix this with Ryzen Master, but I do not think AMD wants to. For example a slider that would result in: > higher boost clock = lower all core > lower boost clock = higher all core Most will buy either the 5600X if just gaming or the 5900X if they game and need it for work too. So I think the 5900X and the 5600X are the best buys at the moment. The only reason to buy a 5800X is if you intend to keep it longer than 1-2 years. Thou that is if you are only gaming and/or maybe do some work on it sometimes. Another reason of course would be 100USD short on the budget to buy an 5900X, or you want to put that extra 100USD in a better GPU. That said I think AMD will drop the price on the 5800X early next year. Thou at the moment they will sell anyhow because of demand. The reason why there are no non X at the moment is that people would buy them instead just like the 3000series. Best selling AMD CPU was their 3700 non X. Maybe they will add them when Intel Rocket Lake comes around to compete on price again, or they will just drop prices on current ones.:)

Agree with Lily on the best choices are the 5600X and 5900X based on the current pricing scheme. The 5600X is going to be the new King of budget gaming CPU. It has so much headroom still left with the right GPU.

Anyone got some 3090 SLI test ? 😀 Want to seee if 5600X can bottleneck that .

kapu:

Anyone got some 3090 SLI test ? 😀 Want to seee if 5600X can bottleneck that .

Running a single gpu with half the cores switched off on cpu would give you same kinda outcome.

AMD is killing it

DannyD:

Running a single gpu with half the cores switched off on cpu would give you same kinda outcome.

Kinda , but not the same 😀

@Hilbert Hagedoorn If you get time is it possible you could fire up flight simulator on this chip or any of the future Zen 3 ones you do? Your earlier benchmark of that title (with the 9900K) indicated it's CPU bottlenecked.. with the 2080Ti/3080 tying each other - another game I play is Starcitizen - which also is typically heavily CPU bottlenecked in a similar regard. Kind of curious if swapping to a Zen 3 would help alleviate this in these titles. I think FS2020 would demonstrate that. https://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=63724&admin=0a8fcaad6b03da6a6895d1ada2e171002a287bc1

3x3cUt0r:

5900XT? think there are a few images with typos, like https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-7-5800x-review,26.html

Yeah, my brain is fried, thanks and fixed!

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

Yeah, my brain is fried

Lol now I feel bad asking

Denial:

If you get time is it possible you could fire up flight simulator on this chip or any of the future Zen 3 ones you do? Your earlier benchmark of that title (with the 9900K) indicated it's CPU bottlenecked.. with the 2080Ti/3080 tying each other - another game I play is Starcitizen - which also is typically heavily CPU bottlenecked in a similar regard. Kind of curious if swapping to a Zen 3 would help alleviate this in these titles.

I answered that in the other thread already actually. But with 200+ comments, I guess it was lost in translation 😉 Ehm, so I had planned to embed FS2020 into the CPU testing suite but realized it would be mission impossible time-wise with the downloads and install time (that just takes ages). That said I am planning to add some sort of update to my FS2020 review with the inclusion of ZEN3.

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

I answered that in the other thread already actually. But with 200+ comments, I guess it was lost in translation 😉 Ehm, so I had planned to embed FS2020 into the CPU testing suite but realized it would be mission impossible time-wise with the downloads and install time (that just takes ages). That said I am planning to add some sort of update to my FS2020 review with the inclusion of ZEN3.

Thanks!

schmidtbag:

I thought the 5800X only had one CCX? Skimming through your link, it doesn't appear to say otherwise. I would expect the 5700(X) to have a pair of CCXs.

Where do i say that it doesn't... The 5800x uses a single ccx, as does the 5600x.

I guess I'm gonna wait until the price for this drops and get it then. My 3600X (yeah I'm one of the 10 people who bought it 😀) still does everything I need it to do, but since I'm staying on x570 for the foreseeable future, might as well stick in something more future proof down the line. Not at this price though. My main concern right now is upgrading my GPU. Hope the 6800XT lives up to at least 75% of the hype 🙂.

Is it just me or is the idle power on these high? Or is that down to the mobo?

Dragam1337:

Where do i say that it doesn't... The 5800x uses a single ccx, as does the 5600x.

You said: "i really think amd made a mistake by not making a high binned 8 core single ccx cpu " Is that not what the 5800X is? Because it is a high-binned 8 core, so that leads me to believe you meant it isn't a single CCX. Though, after re-reading your comment, I think what you meant is they could've pushed the 5800X harder. Chances are, they're probably going to have a 5800XT.

BLEH!:

Is it just me or is the idle power on these high? Or is that down to the mobo?

Mobo. RGB these days eats 5 to 10w easily. Next to that historically Asus boards use a fraction more as well as PCIE 4.0 and stuff like 2.5gige chips, AX wifi all do need a tad more power overall.

AMD should have named this 8 core part the 5700X and then had a 5800X as 10 core 2 CCX. With only 5/8 cores active they might have been able to hit some really good clock speeds and use up some chips where more cores which failed validation. I guess the issue would have been people comparing the price for a 5700X against the 3700X.

Herem:

AMD should have named this 8 core part the 5700X and then had a 5800X as 10 core 2 CCX

I don't think AMD likes to waste cores and not use them, I mean basically, you are disabling 6 cores. While a working 16 cores processor can do close to what you want as well, binning the best dies and cores tieing the best ones to fast turbo bins.

schmidtbag:

You said: "i really think amd made a mistake by not making a high binned 8 core single ccx cpu " Is that not what the 5800X is? Because it is a high-binned 8 core, so that leads me to believe you meant it isn't a single CCX. Though, after re-reading your comment, I think what you meant is they could've pushed the 5800X harder. Chances are, they're probably going to have a 5800XT.

It is not a high binned cpu, hence it having lower boost clocks than the 5950x, which was the entire point of what i wrote...