AMD Radeon RX Vega Lineup Supposedly leaked - Vega Core, Eclipse and Nova

#5431975

vazup

2017-05-15 16:37

Wont these be obsolete if nvidia launches something new in summer or they are not planing anything this year?

#5431979

Loophole35

2017-05-15 16:42

Wont these be obsolete if nvidia launches something new in summer or they are not planing anything this year?

Earliest you will see Volta is November. More likely February.

#5431987

alanm

2017-05-15 16:56

Earliest you will see Volta is November. More likely February.

But how soon can AMD come up with Navi?

#5431990

PrMinisterGR

2017-05-15 17:02

If Nova is a dual GPU it is DOA IMO. Been saying this for a year now.

Isn't it obvious that there won't be any consumer dual GPUs? I mean the clocks in the Linux driver basically show a 4096 shader card at 1.6GHz. That's 13.1Tflop. If they've hit Maxwell-level graphics performance (they're already better at compute) they don't need a dual card to compete with the Ti.

#5431991

Ryu5uzaku

2017-05-15 17:02

But how soon can AMD come up with Navi?

Maybe Q2 2018

#5431992

Loophole35

2017-05-15 17:03

But how soon can AMD come up with Navi?

That is the question. I may be a bit more optimistic on Navi as it should already be getting a lion share of R&D budget (and should have for the past 3 months). I hope to see working samples pop up say may of next year.

#5432000

Loophole35

2017-05-15 17:13

Isn't it obvious that there won't be any consumer dual GPUs? I mean the clocks in the Linux driver basically show a 4096 shader card at 1.6GHz. That's 13.1Tflop. If they've hit Maxwell-level graphics performance (they're already better at compute) they don't need a dual card to compete with the Ti.

Isn't it obvious the Linux driver shows a PLX device? Can latch on to one leak and throw another away because it doesn't fit your ideal. That's what fanboys do. Edit: damnit sorry for the double post.

#5432011

PrMinisterGR

2017-05-15 17:44

That is the question. I may be a bit more optimistic on Navi as it should already be getting a lion share of R&D budget (and should have for the past 3 months). I hope to see working samples pop up say may of next year.

I wouldn't put much faith in Navi. Like NVIDIA with Volta, AMD has been showing Navi for way too long in roadmaps right now. Both of them really depend on the fabs for delivering anything. My guess is that the worst case scenario for AMD is that Navi is a 7nm Vega. The best case scenario for them is managing to create something like a GPU "CCX" that presents itself as one, so that they can sell immense GPUs at low costs. It will probably end up being something in between, but I don't expect it until 2019 in any real quantity.

Isn't it obvious the Linux driver shows a PLX device? Can latch on to one leak and throw another away because it doesn't fit your ideal. That's what fanboys do. Edit: damnit sorry for the double post.

Yes it is. That's why I was talking about consumer-level dual GPUs. AMD hasn't made one since the 295x2. That's why I also explained that if a professional dual GPU has 1.6GHz clocks, a single GPU gaming card doesn't need anything apart from Maxwell-level efficiency to go against the Ti. Try reading what's actually being written.

#5432014

Ryu5uzaku

2017-05-15 17:46

I wouldn't put much faith in Navi. Like NVIDIA with Volta, AMD has been showing Navi for way too long in roadmaps right now. Both of them really depend on the fabs for delivering anything. My guess is that the worst case scenario for AMD is that Navi is a 7nm Vega. The best case scenario for them is managing to create something like a GPU "CCX" that presents itself as one, so that they can sell immense GPUs at low costs. It will probably end up being something in between, but I don't expect it until 2019 in any real quantity. Yes it is. That's why I was talking about consumer-level dual GPUs. AMD hasn't made one since the 295x2. That's why I also explained that if a professional dual GPU has 1.6GHz clocks, a single GPU gaming card doesn't need anything apart from Maxwell-level efficiency to go against the Ti. Try reading what's actually being written.

I think Navi could be first GPU totally done by Raja since he came to the house (just my thought).

#5432025

PrMinisterGR

2017-05-15 18:09

I think Navi could be first GPU totally done by Raja since he came to the house (just my thought).

I believe you would be correct actually.

#5432049

Fox2232

2017-05-15 19:44

I think Navi could be first GPU totally done by Raja since he came to the house (just my thought).

I believe you would be correct actually.

There is not much of GPU architecture left unchanged. But question is: "What about driver?"

#5432113

PrMinisterGR

2017-05-15 23:00

There is not much of GPU architecture left unchanged. But question is: "What about driver?"

I was about to respond with a meme. Koduri has the most meme-fied face I've seen in an executive. I have no idea. The current GCN driver is actually quite good. Some glaring omissions are still there (like vsync). That they have already submitted the Vega driver for Linux strikes me like a good sign. We'll see.

#5432149

-Tj-

2017-05-16 00:49

Vega Nova, dat name 😀 🤓 So that 3dmark timespy 1600MHz is "true" after all.. Well it should be obviously or Vega is not worth mentioning.

#5432154

nattefrost

2017-05-16 00:58

What did you expect, a giant chip, HBM2, potentially watercooling for sub $300? Like come on.

because when you can get GTX 1080 for $429 why wouldnt you

#5432161

Denial

2017-05-16 01:07

because when you can get GTX 1080 for $429 why wouldnt you

The cheapest I can find a GTX1080 for is $489 and the average 1080 is definitely above $500 - which makes the pricing on the 1080 variant fine, if it falls in at $500. The cheapest I can find a 1080Ti for is $675, which makes the largest Vega variant $75 cheaper. The only one that seems a little off is the 1070 variant. Either way the pricing will adjust to reflect the performance compared to competition.

#5432162

H83

2017-05-16 01:13

because when you can get GTX 1080 for $429 why wouldnt you

Lucky bastard! In Portugal that´s the price of the cheapest GTX1070... And the price i´ve paid for my Asus 1070 with a 20% discount!!! The normal price was 530€...

#5432166

PrMinisterGR

2017-05-16 01:26

In Greece the cheapest 1080 is 505 euros without delivery.

#5432173

Junas28

2017-05-16 02:10

In Greece the cheapest 1080 is 505 euros without delivery.

I live in Turkey. Regarding prices, do i have to say anything more. :3eyes:

#5432183

-Tj-

2017-05-16 03:05

Here in slovenia the cheapest GTX1080 is 575€.. otherwise up to 700€ lol, 1080TI 779€, usually 830-900€.. idk its like we live is some super rich country while its just the opposite, taxed to the max with low wage, good wage is ~800€ a month, vs Germany with 1500€ and 3% lower tax.. and a 1080TI from Germany costs 690€ 😀 I think AMD did a good pricing there, if Vega Nova really delivers 10.7K gpu score, then its direct 1080TI TitanXP competitor alright. Was kind of similar with FuryX in the end.

#5432188

PrMinisterGR

2017-05-16 03:20

Here in slovenia the cheapest GTX1080 is 575€.. otherwise up to 700€ lol, 1080TI 779€, usually 830-900€.. idk its like we live is some super rich country while its just the opposite, taxed to the max with low wage, good wage is ~800€ a month, vs Germany with 1500€ and 3% lower tax.. and a 1080TI from Germany costs 690€ 😀 I think AMD did a good pricing there, if Vega Nova really delivers 10.7K gpu score, then its direct 1080TI TitanXP competitor alright. Was kind of similar with FuryX in the end.

The Fury X is (according to Techpowerup) currently 3% slower in 1080p, 1% faster in 1440p, and 4% faster than the 980Ti in 4k. That's with their selection of games of course.