Some games may exhibit stutter intermittently during gameplay on Radeon RX 5000 series graphics products. stilll no ix

Am I imagining things, or does that list of "known issues" seem to be pretty consistent across driver releases?

Yeah unfortunately although AMD has added a few additional issues that have also been around for a while and there's some unlisted issues such as recurring problems with browser hardware acceleration or media playback. Profiles not saving or defaulting, Wattman inconsistencies and longer standing unfixed issues for Polaris, Vega and Radeon VII in addition to Navi as well. NVIDIA has a few as well as usual with display drivers and how complicated this is but some of these really should have been resolved by now let alone 1+ year of remaining unfixed which is a real problem.

For me at this point the new drivers is way better than the first release in Dec 2019. With that said it is still far from good. I still get weird black screen and aplication hang issues when I Alt + Tab while gaming.

At least it's acknowledged in the release notes though who knows how long it will take to get fixed.

Radeon RX Vega series graphics products may experience a system crash or TDR when performing multiple task switches using Alt+Tab.

Feels like AMD really ought to freeze things for a while and work out existing bugs but they probably don't have the team size to handle major rewrites or overhauls while also supporting the upcoming GPU hardware and the current games and apps and existing bugs and all that much as seeing long standing issues fixed would be really welcome at this point and it probably would also affect investors and all that stuff as a sort of admittance to how bad things might be much as the driver situation has improved and there's been a lot of fixes as well. 🙂 https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/g6t1ih/radeon_software_adrenalin_2020_edition_2042/

The issue that the mouse cursor's hardware acceleration causes several dropped frames per second, which can be worked around by setting MouseTrails to -1, is still there for me. DP 2560x1440 60Hz and HDMI 1920x1080 60Hz are both affected (two single monitor setups and one dual monitor setup were tested). Intensity seems to vary from reboot to reboot - sometimes it's not too bad (hard to notice even), other times it feels like three frames are being dropped every twentieth frame. Additional information: Post in 2020.2.2 Drivers thread about the issue still persisting (includes my hardware config) Very easy to reproduce with vsynctester.com at 60Hz Linux is affected as well Linux drivers issue thread on gitlab freedesktop (Windows 10 shows similar symptoms for me) It seems that this is usually not a problem in games where (/while) no cursor is shown or where a software cursor is used, which, all things considered, makes sense. I've already sent two or three reports about this issue via radeon software's bug report function since January with each subsequent report containing more detailed information about how to reproduce (last one included vsynctester in steps to reproduce). I'm wondering whether the issue is included in the "some games may exhibit stutter" bullet point since it's a very specific issue and not seemingly random at all (edit: and it's also not directly game related, it happens during regular desktop use as well).

Stuff like this just needs to be worked out and resolved at this point. (And other issues, stability, performance and all that which gets listed or confirmed as still being a problem by users.) Nice fixes as with many of the post 19.12.2 Adrenaline 2020 drivers since early February or so but there's still more that needs to see a resolution and for some of these longer outstanding issues it never should have taken this long in the first place.

What I find interesting is that Enhanced Sync is off by default in all of the gaming profiles that come included in the drivers. I turned it on two nights ago to give Doom Eternal a try and it just caused nothing but stuttering, all the way to the main menu. I've left it off now and I don't intend to return to that functionality. Anything that can resolve my intermittent black screens is a bonus.

mentor07825:

What I find interesting is that Enhanced Sync is off by default in all of the gaming profiles that come included in the drivers. I turned it on two nights ago to give Doom Eternal a try and it just caused nothing but stuttering, all the way to the main menu. I've left it off now and I don't intend to return to that functionality. Anything that can resolve my intermittent black screens is a bonus.

Enhanced sync never worked correctly. Its function is to smooth out the framerate above your refresh rate and always ended up stuttering. I've heard its the cause for some bsod also.With frame limiters and freesync it should stay disabled indefinitely.

Enhanced Sync does not work properly for now and due to that it's currently disabled in all profiles. My experience is same as @Undying mention, nothing but stuttering.

Any reason why Radeon Settings reports my monitor's freesync range as 30-60hz on a monitor with a variable refresh range of 30-144hz?

sykozis:

Any reason why Radeon Settings reports my monitor's freesync range as 30-60hz on a monitor with a variable refresh range of 30-144hz?

Yeah, I would just disable it. I've always had my suspicions of freesync.

Hi! Windows 8.1 is specified for one of the downloads, but all I get is an error that the OS is not supported. How do I install the driver on Win 8.1?

I think you have to use the Windows 7 driver possibly manually through the device manager if that becomes needed to get it to update but AMD went a bit odd a while back and dumped 8 and 8.1 support instead of going at it in order but then Win7 was just so much more popular and had a wider install base so it couldn't be cut entirely either. Also cut 32-bit but NVIDIA did the same a while ago though the 64-bit driver is still 64/32 as it has to be so it feels like that didn't really give much either but it might simplify the build process and testing as x86 / 32-bit OS's diminish in favor of a larger install base of x64/64-bit (With 32-bit support.) Suppose now that 7 is ended AMD could either go back to 8 or 8.1 or just cut it to be Windows 10 only leaving Windows 7 for more critical updates if needed or a slower cycle but it's probably too early still to consider just doing that anytime soon.

JonasBeckman:

I think you have to use the Windows 7 driver possibly manually through the device manager if that becomes needed to get it to update

How would I do that?

JonasBeckman:

AMD went a bit odd a while back and dumped 8 and 8.1 support instead of going at it in order but then Win7 was just so much more popular and had a wider install base so it couldn't be cut entirely either.

I'm quite sure Microsoft cutting the Win 8 line's throat had something to do with it. By the way, I managed to install the driver that's on Asus' website for my RX580, but this is from 2018... And for some reason the HDMI audio devices don't work. (Maybe the drivers aren't even included for this.)

The Windows 7 drivers from here should work. https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-20-4-2 Which would be this but grabbing links directly and not from the AMD website redirection leads to a message instead. https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/win7-radeon-software-adrenalin-2020-edition-20.4.2-may25.exe If the install process won't work there's the control panel -> system settings and from there the device manager. Expand the display adapters menu here and double click on the GPU device go to drivers and the option for updating drivers. Select that you have a disk and point it to the folder where you let AMD's installer unpack which would by default be the C:\AMD directory. Path from that to the drivers would be like this after that. C:\Downloads\AMD_Display\Packages\Drivers\Display\WT6A_INF In my case I just store it to "C:\Downloads\AMD_Display" moving or removing earlier drivers. Should be a INF in the "Packages\Display" folder though the WT6 folder might have a alternate name for the Windows 7 driver package. 🙂 If that works the device manager should just install the new drivers and you'll be on 20.4.2 or 20.5.1 and the driver version and file date for these whichever you chose. Though ideally the Windows 7 installer works fine on Windows 8 or 8.1 and you can just run through AMD's setup routine without any manual steps being required by using the Windows 7 package instead of the Windows 10 one as it should be compatible. (That's how it used to work at least when AMD stopped their Windows 8 GPU driver support.) EDIT: The HDMI audio device driver can also be updated, AMD's driver should be under the sound listings in the device manager and pointing that towards this folder should find the INF for it. C:\AMD\Packages\Drivers\Audio\HDMI\WT64A\ (Windows 7 folder names could differ slightly for that driver package.) And again if it works the installer being compatible across any Windows Device Display Model 1.x version (WDDM) and just running the install process would avoid any manual steps like this unlike the Windows 10 package and WDDM 2.0 (or higher in newer Win10 builds.) requirements.

changing the exe compatibility to w7 should also work.

That might be simpler still, make the process behave as if it's running under Windows 7 and avoid problems with OS compatibility entirely if that's all that is needed now. 🙂 EDIT: No problems with device manager manual installation either or missing installations for other components.

JonasBeckman:

If the install process won't work there's the control panel -> system settings and from there the device manager. [...]

Thanks. I'll take a look. I guess I should uninstall, the driver from Asus' website first?

JonasBeckman:

Though ideally the Windows 7 installer works fine on Windows 8 or 8.1 and you can just run through AMD's setup routine without any manual steps being required by using the Windows 7 package instead of the Windows 10 one as it should be compatible. (That's how it used to work at least when AMD stopped their Windows 8 GPU driver support.)

Sadly it doesn't I only get the unsupported OS message.

Astyanax:

changing the exe compatibility to w7 should also work.

It doesn't. Apparently it's not enough to fool the installer.

sykozis:

Am I imagining things, or does that list of "known issues" seem to be pretty consistent across driver releases?

One wonders if there is just one person handling the driver writing at AMD like some of the mobo makers BIOS writers.

JonasBeckman:

EDIT: The HDMI audio device driver can also be updated, AMD's driver should be under the sound listings in the device manager and pointing that towards this folder should find the INF for it. C:\AMD\Packages\Drivers\Audio\HDMI\WT64A\ (Windows 7 folder names could differ slightly for that driver package.)

No success for audio. It always claims that the driver (generic 2013 Microsoft driver) is up to date...

Hmm perhaps I got the device wrong? There's the "Audio input and outputs." with a whole lot of speaker devices which usually have generic Microsoft drivers on them. Below these there's the "Sound, video and game controllers." AMD High Definition Audio Device here should be using a AMD driver 10.0.1.12 I think it's up to from early October last year. 🙂 That one should hopefully accept a device driver update. There's a little ReleaseNotes.txt in that folder too showing what's been altered between versions.

Driver version = 10.0.1.12 , 07/10/2019 ======================================= Bug fixed: Resolved delay in audio streaming when HDMI to type C dongle is used The Microsoft License and copyrights have been updated Driver version = 10.0.1.11 , 05/10/2019 ======================================= Bug fixed: BSOD is resolved in race conditions. Driver version = 10.0.1.10 , 04/30/2019 ======================================= Bug fixed: BSOD is resolved in long plug/unplug cycles. Driver version = 10.0.1.09 , 02/27/2019 ======================================= Bug fixed: Surprise removal of an external dGPU is now supported. Driver version = 10.0.1.08 , 01/11/2019 ======================================= Improvements: 1. Device can now enter D3 state in idle condition. 2. BACO settings from audio side implemented. Driver version = 10.0.1.07 , 03/30/2018 ================================= Changes: To support latest OS version RS4 Driver version = 10.0.1.06 , 11/16/2017 ======================================= Bug fixed: Avoiding device to enter D3 in DC mode. Driver version = 10.0.1.05 , 10/30/2017 ======================================= Removed: DelayAPO is not supported.