AMD Mantle will benefit Lower-End CPUs, not mainstream and high-end PCs.

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i wonder what is the diference between win7 and win8.1, since win8.1 should be little lighter on cpu too right ? Hope we will se some tests soon.
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bf4 mantle boost is for 290 and 290x only currently.
Link?
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i wonder what is the diference between win7 and win8.1, since win8.1 should be little lighter on cpu too right ? Hope we will se some tests soon.
no, win 8.1 is more heavy on cpu imo. has better utilization.
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so you guys are confident it's basically across the board then and not just 290 /290x cause that would suck massive. *oh wait I need me a 290x now, where's the credit card, honey? .. *I seen the battlelog link before but missed the 7970.
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Battlefield 4(EA-DICE) •CPU-limited scenario: 40.9% (1080p) and 40.1% (1600p) performance improvement under Ultra settings and 4xAA on the AMD A10-7700K with an AMD Radeon™ R9 290X. Who in his right mind has this setup :bang:. I want to see the benefits in a more balanced setup, like A10-7700K and a R7-260. •Average uplift for 1080p: 13.28% (Average of 290X and 260X data on the i7-4960X, A10-7700K, FX 8350 and i5-4670K) •Average uplift for 1600p: 11.35% (Average of 290X and 260X data on the i7-4960X, A10-7700K, FX 8350 and i5-4670K) I find this very misleading. All those average of the average of something of the mix or more things, fps or percentage?
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I'll take what ever it gives me....its free after all
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below 15%? well we all kinda knew that those 40% are very overestimated, but less than 15% on a strong rig? And that will only happen once they have stable drivers and implementation in games will be proper? pathetic, now I know it's free but all the hype around it.. Guess AMD spend too much time around EA who love to release a turd and then let customers complain only to start polishing it afterwards. Something tells me there are gonna be massive driver issues for AMD users in the near future. Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best.Time will tell...and I was really thinking of buying AMD as my next upgrade 😛uke2:
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http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/bf4-mantle-live/
Test case 2: Standard 64-player multiplayer CPU: AMD FX-8350, 8 cores @ 4 GHz GPU: AMD Radeon 7970 3 GB (AMD will add support for the AMD Radeon™ HD 7970 in a later stage of Mantle’s release schedule, learn more) Settings: 1080p ULTRA 1x MSAA OS: Windows 8 64-bit Level: Siege of Shanghai Level was tested with 64 “pseudo players” that we have for our own internal testing that simulates heavy game workload that we have in multiplayer in order to get more deterministic results compared to full real multiplayer. 64 players on the large Battlefield levels is really demanding of the CPU so this test case is primarily CPU-bound. Result: 18.87 ms/f -> 15.08 ms/f = 25.1% faster
Test case 3: High-end single-player with multiple GPUs CPU: Intel Core i7-3970x Extreme, 12 logical cores @ 3.5 GHz GPU: 2x AMD Radeon R9 290x 4 GB Settings: 1080p ULTRA 4x MSAA OS: Windows 8 64-bit Level: South China Sea “Broken Flight Deck” This single-player scene is heavy on both the CPU and GPU with lots of action going on. Test was done on the highest end Intel CPU on Windows 8, which is the fastest option before Mantle thanks to DirectX 11.1. Still this CPU is not fast enough to keep the 2 290x GPUs fed at 1080p on Ultra settings so we get a significant CPU performance bottleneck which results in major performance improvement when enabling Mantle. Result: 13.24 ms/f -> = 8.38 ms/f = 58% faster
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It will for sure benefict high end CPUs. In a few years when they become low end 😀
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Battlefield 4(EA-DICE) •CPU-limited scenario: 40.9% (1080p) and 40.1% (1600p) performance improvement under Ultra settings and 4xAA on the AMD A10-7700K with an AMD Radeon™ R9 290X. Who in his right mind has this setup :bang:. I want to see the benefits in a more balanced setup, like A10-7700K and a R7-260. •Average uplift for 1080p: 13.28% (Average of 290X and 260X data on the i7-4960X, A10-7700K, FX 8350 and i5-4670K) •Average uplift for 1600p: 11.35% (Average of 290X and 260X data on the i7-4960X, A10-7700K, FX 8350 and i5-4670K) I find this very misleading. All those average of the average of something of the mix or more things, fps or percentage?
Yeah that A10 is in there just to muddy the results. It looks like people will get an increase but not a huge one. Don't want to say I told you so but you know it's coming.
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So from what i´ve understood the biggest gains happen on low end cpu´s while the high end benefits are lower than 10%, right??? Well it´s good news for those who have low end rigs( 90% of gamers, let´s remember this fact) and it´s gonna help sell AMD´s APUs, so i think AMD did well this time. Kudos for them! Now Hilbert it´s up to you to confirm this points with a nice in depth review, i´ll be waiting for it!!!
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I'm not sure the extra performance is worth the extra cost for devs to implement mantle.
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Now Hilbert it´s up to you to confirm this points with a nice in depth review, i´ll be waiting for it!!!
exactly, apart from the fellow gurus here I ain't believing anything TILL Hilbert DOES HIS REVIEW. caps.
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Yeah. Those Multi GPU numbers dice posted... If they were real. Hilbert please do a r9 290 crossfire review! 🙂
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And mantle becomes just another over-hyped thing. "You will get up to 40% performance boost in games" .... "Oh but we forgot, that's only for low end cpu's and OUR apu's". Why did they wait till the last days to release this information? Because they knew how (above average) gamers would react. Yes any increase is good, but all the hype about it being so awesome ( almost "the new best thing") was just a big fail. And now after finally seeing g-sync in action myself i can say that i would take it over mantle anytime (yes, it needs an investment, but it does work quite well). All i was reading about mantle in the last few months was: "We delayed Mantle AGAIN" And using an apu with a high end gpu .... I lol'ed
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And mantle becomes just another over-hyped thing. "You will get up to 40% performance boost in games" .... "Oh but we forgot, that's only for low end cpu's and OUR apu's". Why did they wait till the last days to release this information? Because they knew how (above average) gamers would react. Yes any increase is good, but all the hype about it being so awesome ( almost "the new best thing") was just a big fail. And now after finally seeing g-sync in action myself i can say that i would take it over mantle anytime (yes, it needs an investment, but it does work quite well). All i was reading about mantle in the last few months was: "We delayed Mantle AGAIN"
at this point mantle = 290 /290x. just how well it performs though is anyone's guess.
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Lot of nvidia trolls here :/ People were expecting 40% improvements on all hardware? come on. If it helps on cpu bound stuff like 64 player servers where I get most frame drops and keeps them minimum frames up by 15% then I'm happy. I'll post some multiplayer benches anyways for people genuinely interested in seeing improvments, stuff like minimum frame rate ect AMD just need to push the driver now.