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How can Valve be so incompetent to not have a whitelist for a basic feature like AntiLag. No other online game has such a problem.
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Horus-Anhur:

How can Valve be so incompetent to not have a whitelist for a basic feature like AntiLag. No other online game has such a problem.
The feature modifies the game engine DLL files, so I would say that it is not directly valves fault. Valve just has a much stricter anti cheat policy about the game engine files then any other game developer. Personally I would rather not use anti-lag if the tradeoff is less cheaters/hacks.
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TLD LARS:

The feature modifies the game engine DLL files, so I would say that it is not directly valves fault. Valve just has a much stricter anti cheat policy about the game engine files then any other game developer. Personally I would rather not use anti-lag if the tradeoff is less cheaters/hacks.
AntiLag is not a cheat. It's a normal feature. And Valve should have whitelisted it in their anti-cheat software. Is AntiLag causing bans in CS:GO? No. Because it's white listed.
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Horus-Anhur:

AntiLag is not a cheat. It's a normal feature. And Valve should have whitelisted it in their anti-cheat software. Is AntiLag causing bans in CS:GO? No. Because it's white listed.
When I read it , it seems AMD pulled their drivers , and need to update them to the Anit-cheat software standards. Am i reading this wrong ?
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WhiteLightning:

When I read it , it seems AMD pulled their drivers , and need to update them to the Anit-cheat software standards. Am i reading this wrong ?
Did you notice the part where AntiLag does not cause a Vac ban in CS:GO, despite being used since 2019. And many other games.
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Horus-Anhur:

Of course it makes no sense.
So you think there will be no driver update ?
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WhiteLightning:

So you think there will be no driver update ?
Maybe. Devs are always trying to push problems into others. That's why NVidia, AMD and Intel have so much work to do with their drivers. How many games have we seen getting performance improvements and fixes from the driver side, instead of developers. Look at how many games are released in a broken state, with tons and tons of bugs and issues. Some companies go so far as to rely on users to fix their games with mods and tweaks. EDIT: This reminds me of an issue with Civ6, that causes crashes on lot's of users. Someone modded one of the game's config files and solved the issue. Shared it on the Steam forums and Firaxis pinned that fix. For many months that was the solution for crashes with Civ6. And users had to mod their game to be able to play it.
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Horus-Anhur:

Maybe. Devs are always trying to push problems into others. That's why NVidia, AMD and Intel have so much work to do with their drivers. How many games have we seen getting performance improvements and fixes from the driver side, instead of developers. Look at how many games are released in a broken state, with tons and tons of bugs and issues. Some companies go so far as to rely on users to fix their games with mods and tweaks. EDIT: This reminds me of an issue with Civ6, that causes crashes on lot's of users. Someone modded one of the game's config files and solved the issue. Shared it on the Steam forums and Firaxis pinned that fix. For many months that was the solution for crashes with Civ6. And users had to mod their game to be able to play it.
That is very true. lets hope things get fixed soon!
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so instead of fixing their shit game "upgrade" and do something about bots and real cheaters or people kicking you for not being of their nationality resulting in competitive penalties, they bans for a using a SIGNED company driver. GG Valve.
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Horus-Anhur:

AntiLag is not a cheat. It's a normal feature. And Valve should have whitelisted it in their anti-cheat software. Is AntiLag causing bans in CS:GO? No. Because it's white listed.
Do you have evidence that CS GO has it whitelisted? Ignoring Anti-lag or whitelisting Anti-lag is two very different things, CSGO and CS2 might not even use the same DLL files that causes the problem. By whitelisting a change in the DLL file, valve could open a door for other persons to missuse the change in the same DLL file. Instead of inserting the AMD anti-lag function, someone could insert a aim bot or the change could somehow prevent Valve from detecting nonhuman mouse movements. Plenty of people complain about cheating in CS, so valve may not want to whitelist a change in the DLL files.
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TLD LARS:

Do you have evidence that CS GO has it whitelisted? Ignoring Anti-lag or whitelisting Anti-lag is two very different things, CSGO and CS2 might not even use the same DLL files that causes the problem. By whitelisting a change in the DLL file, valve could open a door for other persons to missuse the change in the same DLL file. Instead of inserting the AMD anti-lag function, someone could insert a aim bot or the change could somehow prevent Valve from detecting nonhuman mouse movements. Plenty of people complain about cheating in CS, so valve may not want to whitelist a change in the DLL files.
Whatever it is, this issue only appears in CS2 and not CS:GO.
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Old Anti-Lag might be less invasive when it comes to game process intrusion.
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Seems to me that antilag features shouldn't be supported one way only, those seems to be changes to the game engine that should be implemented by the game owner and not the graphic driver. If you can reduce the lag by patching a piece of the game, that is a patch for the game imho.
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asturur:

Seems to me that antilag features shouldn't be supported one way only, those seems to be changes to the game engine that should be implemented by the game owner and not the graphic driver. If you can reduce the lag by patching a piece of the game, that is a patch for the game imho.
you are taking as other driver features and settings doesn't alter the engine I/O xD even some settings on windows alter how presentation is done.
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Wouldn't it be much easier if it was just part of the game and not drivers ? that way they would never have to detour engine functions at all. I mean Nvidia has it in games and i do not think you are able to add reflex if you want.