AMD Gives Statement on the PCI-Express Overcurrent Problems

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#5299601
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Of course they will lower the clocks of 480 and card will throttle. AMD is doing a very simple logic.
#5299602
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theyre having a field day trolling at [H] about this. the discussions ceiling is so low i cant be bothered to chime in there. more on topic, im glad AMD is doing something about this problem quickly however. making mistakes isnt wat we should base judgement on; its how mistakes are addressed & rectified that matters...coming from someone who has owned plenty of team greens gpus over the years
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theyre having a field day trolling at [H] about this. the discussions ceiling is so low i cant be bothered to chime in there. more on topic, im glad AMD is doing something about this problem quickly however. making mistakes isnt wat we should base judgement on; its how mistakes are addressed & rectified that matters...coming from someone who has owned plenty of team greens gpus over the years
They will lower the clocks and their is no other logically way.
#5299611
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According to Ryan Smith it could affect reviews depending on what the root cause is. "If power is somehow being wasted and it can be stopped (think leaking hose) then no. However if the issue is that power consumption is just being allowed to go too high (think a hose turned up higher) then yes, the card would need to be throttled back to avoid breaking power containment." I guess nobody can blame AMD for last minute clocks/voltage changes to be more competitive, but they forgot (or turned blind eye) PCI-E certification. Seems like reviews will need to be redone ....
#5299614
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If they will lower the clocks, i wonder how much of a difference it will make with benchmark scores. not that much i reckon. In any way it is sloppy work if it falls out of specification.
#5299615
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I dont see this effecting the non-reference cards in the future. People should not be forgeting that. Statement is for reference cards only using one 6pin.
#5299618
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I dont see this effecting the non-reference cards in the future. People should not be forgeting that. Statement is for reference cards only using one 6pin.
I believe custom boards will be a non-issue but it's a black eye nonetheless. It just shows some level of either incompetence at AMD or a willingness to play loose with the rules.
#5299620
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So there was some wonky stuff. Good thing that they admit it and are working on fixing it. I hope it doesn't lower the performance noticeably.
#5299622
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They will lower the clocks and their is no other logically way.
There actually is. Tests have shown that undervolting a 480 results in higher performance, less power usage and subsequently less heat. Of course each card has a different undervolting threshold before tapping out. That said, I still consider the reference a bit of a disaster and am looking forward to AIB cards.
#5299640
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Lol too much tuning. This reminds me what did their first competitor with last cards (except thei introduced throtteling to pair the power issue).
#5299651
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There actually is. Tests have shown that undervolting a 480 results in higher performance, less power usage and subsequently less heat. Of course each card has a different undervolting threshold before tapping out. That said, I still consider the reference a bit of a disaster and am looking forward to AIB cards.
How would that even work? The only situation I can see an undervolted card perform better if its throttling based on temparature which I don't think is the case.
#5299664
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That guy is a troll. He is the one of those people who said Polaris can be near to GTX 980 Ti. A sensible person will never say that.
he is not a troll but sucks on amd's ahole not for nuttin' the guy who just posted the link Is no better
#5299665
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Hm. I think it is rude to say someone is a troll like that, it is dismissive. I do not know this man, but this video presents incorrect information, perhaps his others are more accurate.
sadly no all his videos are the same marketing bs amd slings
#5299667
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Hilbert, can you clarify - you mentioned (and all of us read in review), that the card pulls 166W, but then you said, that you could not replicate issues. What did you mean? 166W is an issue in itself, no?
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Hilbert, can you clarify - you mentioned (and all of us read in review), that the card pulls 166W, but then you said, that you could not replicate issues. What did you mean? 166W is an issue in itself, no?
I'm not 100% sure of this but from what I understood is that the problem is more evident on older PCIE slots (inherently 2.0 and 1.0) where the power limit is more restricted.
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Another nail in the coffin.
#5299676
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It's very possible that all this mess was caused by some AMD PR exec decisions to make 480 appear as the power efficient champion using only a 6 pin power connector and at the same time increase the GPU clocks beyond what is reasonable with this power supply. Now the driver team (software) with the help of engineers (hardware) must clean this mess lowering the sold GPUs power needs...and performance via drivers. A better option could be to flash a modified bios but this is not a normal (and secure) operation for end users. In a perfect world all AMD 480 GPUs will be recalled and substituted with at revised GPU with at least a 8 pin power connector.We don't live in a perfect world and GPUs are not cars. 🤓 It will be interesting to compare the performance of custom PCB 480 models with 8 pin connectors and better cooling (Sapphire RX 480 Nitro...) VS the reference model at launch VS the reference model with limited power needs in a next drivers version. We need some AMD GPUs success (even Nvidia users): real competition is needed to lower prices and get faster hardware improvements.

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