Configuration, the coming bios optimizations, and developer-implemented optimization will all play a part in Ryzen's ultimate gaming performance.

Hey, they missed the major point - jump through hoops. I would have suggest a much easier workaround, but AMD lovers won't love it.

Configuration, the coming bios optimizations, and developer-implemented optimization will all play a part in Ryzen's ultimate gaming performance.

Special props for establishing a base line performance by miss-configuring their own CPU via pre-installed/old game config :wanker:

Core parking is Off by default in both power plans - High performance and Balanced - since Win8.

I knew core parking would finally come up. I have core parking off on even my step sons 1055t rig, my main rig and even my server with 16 threads. Dual Xeon X5550s.

"Play in 1440p." Lmao, just kidding of course!

Thank you Amd for starting again competition against monopolists and price inflaters you have bring many people affordable PC desktop again especially those with small budget and 4-6 core ryzen will make even more happy those people 🙂 P.S.(Not relevant for this thread but had to be said!)

AMD employee of the month bonus incoming.

Firmware update? No big deal. Memory picking? Doesn't sound weird. Power plan? Always at max performance here, wouldn't need any addition adjustment. Observer effect? Well, that's annoying. How should you properly OC (next step) if you shouldn't monitor? Overclocking. No brainer, the chip does it himself, and probably most poeple that want to know enough to do so OC anyway. All in all, nothing out of the ordinary to do. Honestly, no big deal.

Thank you Amd for starting again competition against monopolists and price inflaters you have bring many people affordable PC desktop again especially those with small budget and 4-6 core ryzen will make even more happy those people 🙂 P.S.(Not relevant for this thread but had to be said!)

You do realise that "small budget" nets you still as much as for a midrange Intel system? 1800X (500$) + X370 MB (200$) = 700$ 7700K (350$) + Z270 MB (250-300$) = 650$ Honestly? This does not look like a budget build to get, honestly. And the 180X is compared to the 7700K in so many discussions that I just use it here too. The average desktop user gets a few more cores, agreed, but does the average desktop user make good use of them? What we have seen so far does not do much to prove that Ryzen is making things substantially cheaper for the average gamer. I'd more say, once the quad cores come around we will have to see how they perform, what their pricing is, and then we can talk about budget gaming again. Until now we have little information about AMD's lower end lineup. Except that they are supposed to be released with lower stock clocks than their big siblings. And you are right, it is not relevant to this thread. It's not even the one and only truth. See above, either it's wrong or we don't know yet. Take off your pink glasses fellow guru 😉

firmware update? No big deal. Memory picking? Doesn't sound weird. Power plan? Always at max performance here, wouldn't need any addition adjustment. Observer effect? Well, that's annoying. How should you properly oc (next step) if you shouldn't monitor? Overclocking. No brainer, the chip does it himself, and probably most poeple that want to know enough to do so oc anyway. All in all, nothing out of the ordinary to do. Honestly, no big deal. You do realise that "small budget" nets you still as much as for a midrange intel system? 1800x (500$) + x370 mb (200$) = 700$ 7700k (350$) + z270 mb (250-300$) = 650$ honestly? This does not look like a budget build to get, honestly. And the 180x is compared to the 7700k in so many discussions that i just use it here too. The average desktop user gets a few more cores, agreed, but does the average desktop user make good use of them? What we have seen so far does not do much to prove that ryzen is making things substantially cheaper for the average gamer. I'd more say, once the quad cores come around we will have to see how they perform, what their pricing is, and then we can talk about budget gaming again. Until now we have little information about amd's lower end lineup. Except that they are supposed to be released with lower stock clocks than their big siblings. And you are right, it is not relevant to this thread. It's not even the one and only truth. See above, either it's wrong or we don't know yet. Take off your pink glasses fellow guru 😉

6900K (1000$) + X99 mb (250-300$) = 1250-1300$

AMD are shooting themselves in the foot with PR attempts like this! Asking their users to have all this trouble for the cpu to deliver proper performance is beyond stupid!!!:bang: Who the hell is in charge of AMDs PR department? And to make things better, we have this kind of amazing tips like: Ensure there are no background CPU temperature or frequency monitoring tools when performance is essential. Real-time performance measurement tools can have an observer effect that impacts performance, especially if the monitoring resolution (>1 sample/sec) is increased. What´s the point of having an 8 core cpu if AMD tell us that using some programs are detrimental for performance!... Then we have a long and complicated list of how to setup RAM properly. And editing games files also seems lots of fun... AMD is ruining what should be a turining point for them with this kind of stuff... Someone make them stop!

AMD are shooting themselves in the foot with PR attempts like this! Asking their users to have all this trouble for the cpu to deliver proper performance is beyond stupid!!!:bang: Who the hell is in charge of AMDs PR department?

I think there PR department is the tech department?

Going by your recent very anti-AMD, pro-Intel posts, how much are Intel paying you? Or are you just trying to justify your recent purchase?

You sir just made my day 🙂 FYI he does it for nvidia too

AMD employee of the month bonus incoming.

What part of what he said isn't true? The AMD Ryzen 7 lineup, the plain old 1700 in particular, are looking like amazing buys - It's been a very successful, and complete launch. Not for the few glum people who always go after the highest numbers of course, but for everyone else, it's been fantastic. (aside from being unable to buy it because they've sold out). After coming on the back of the hilarious dual core i3 7350K, £180 CPU from Intel (never mind the platform/cooling costs which make the purchase just, nonsense), it is truly hard to fathom how people can be anything less than very pleased with a full-fat 8 core 16 thread with good IPC and nice power consumption for £320. Perhaps it's actually those people, speaking against sense and consumer choice whomst've'd are on the payroll, eh, or more likely it's just so easy to lose track of what's best for you in a world of conspicuous consumption. Will I sacrifice a few fps to otherwise crush a price inflated 4c i7 everywhere else I need moar CPU? Yes, absolutely yes. And so will practically everyone else.

I'm a bit confused that there was nothing said by AMD there about the forthcoming Windows 10 updates to the scheduler that is supposed to fix a lot of the 1080p gaming performance - maybe they don't know when it's gonna happen, & maybe it's not gonna happen, who knows!

it is truly hard to fathom how people can be anything less than very pleased with a full-fat 8 core 16 thread with good IPC and nice power consumption for £320.

because its slower in gaming maybe?

This does not make me happy:

The AMD Ryzen™ processor does not offer memory dividers for DDR4-3000 or DDR4-3400. Users shooting for higher memory clocks should aim for 3200 or 3500 MT/s.

Best performance per $ around here was 2x 16GB DDR4-3000. Price bump to 3200MHz is nearly 50%.

Going by your recent very anti-AMD, pro-Intel posts, how much are Intel paying you? Or are you just trying to justify your recent purchase?

for every one of my "anti" AMD post there is a pro AMD post. Where you notice me being "anti" AMD is where I mention gaming. In everything else, Ryzen is good. I'm a gamer though. So I choose to go with Intel. Is that a problem?

You sir just made my day 🙂 FYI he does it for nvidia too

Well, if AMD gpu department decided to pull their finger out, I'd gladly buy their gpus. I'm saying this as former AMD Crossfire user, which I loved, my gpu history is about 50% Nvidia, 40% AMD/ATI (including top end cards) and the rest is other (3Dfx etc). You're fairly new on here so I'll excuse your lack of knowledge on my gpu history. Please tell me one good reason why I should buy an AMD gpu atm on my budget.

Going by your recent very anti-AMD, pro-Intel posts, how much are Intel paying you? Or are you just trying to justify your recent purchase?

He's all over the Ryzen threads with this. When I looked at his rig I loled.

because its slower in gaming maybe?

So is the 6800k and 6900k costing up to 3 times more and I don't see anyone bashing them.

Please tell me one good reason why I should buy an AMD gpu atm on my budget.

Looking at the one you have now I'd say you shouldn't. Get a cheap 1080 or if you can afford it go all in for a 1080Ti. I doubt Vega will bring anything new and revolutionary. That said, I defend Ryzen is the best CPU since Sandy Bridge.

because its slower in gaming maybe?

So is the 6900K, which the 1700+ are competing with, but that wasn't subjected to the spurious back handed compliments and whataboutery AMD are getting. Most sensible people will take a slightly slower but vastly better general purpose CPU over an inflated 4c any day. After the disaster of faildozer nobody was really expecting much from AMD/Keller, apart from those who bought AMD shares for peanuts not so long ago, heh. However, Ryzen really does deliver, unless you can't enjoy a game without knowing you're getting a few more fps that you'd not notice anyway until you closed the game and went to work with a collection of photos, a home movie, a transcode, etc, where the 1700+ would yield very, very noticeable results. There needs to be a consumer realignment where people stop going by what is the technical fastest in one use and go with what's the best long-term value for them. Intel has been handed a far more venerable position than they deserve, all because people, most of whom can't even afford the products, have worshiped the performance idol for so long. It's just a CPU, not a status symbol, and Intel need to feel the heat again. Of course a minority will still go with Intel as they use their PCs exclusively as a console/facebook machine, but otherwise, the current crop of i7s are embarrassingly poor value. And AMD has yet to offer up any mobile solutions that can even compete against Intel's best, but that may change...

AMD Gives Pointers On How to Improve Ryzen 1080p game performance

Buy an I5? Just kidding