AMD EPYC-CPUs based on 3D V-Cache and teases Zen 4 as well as 128-core Bergamo
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Kaarme
It's probably due to the manufacturing capacity shortage that desktop Zen 3 models with 3D cache haven't been released already. The best time would have been in October, or even in September, to undermine Alder Lake's release.
Valken
If AMD dropped the Vcache bomb right now, they would have killed Intel outright and shoot their stock over 200 USD per share!
schilperoordbas
Congrats Hilbert, your article got in the TechLinked video. Right at the beginning. [youtube=aKxelKMR3SI] 🙂
schmidtbag
tunejunky
i don't disagree with anyone (yet LOL) on topic.
but imho, i think AMD is doing exactly the right thing.
sure, i would've snapped up a v-cached 5900/5950.
but the simple fact is the PC market cannot afford what Enterprise can. the reason these are farmed out to Enterprise first is because of the profit margin which is far beyond what retail PC world can or would support. and let's face it, while a lot of cpu's end up in (light) enterprise the scale of (cloud and heavy) Enterprise enables greater performance downstream as well as underwriting development costs. we have all seen (esp. on streaming platforms) vast performance increases from using Epyc. i can now go and visit my mother in outer wine country and stream 4k w/o the irritation of endless buffering... and what buffering that remains is from the boondocks ISP. and as many ISP's are using EPYC as well that also is being improved on a regular basis. and whatever you think of game streaming, it wouldn't exist at all without Epyc.
Kaarme
tunejunky
yeah but...
AMD is not Intel and doesn't have the resources (including fab prioritization) that Intel has so AMD has to go to the deepest pockets first.
Gomez Addams
These new EPYC processors sound great for what I'm doing. The 24-core EPYC processor, 74F3, is the fastest we've seen on my application, beating out 32-core Threadrippers by a significant margin. Another step forward in performance will be welcome.
Unfortunately, these things have become unobtanium. We were supposed to get three new systems in September but those were delayed and now they can't even estimate a delivery date. They have A100 GPUs in them and those are actually available.
MegaFalloutFan
user1
https://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=73832
zen3 does get a sizable boost to ipc going from 16mb to 32mb (apu vs chiplet), it will improve single threaded to some degree even in the worst case, cinebench isn't exactly latency or memory sensitive , and the increase results in a 4% gain in IPC, I think +5% overall is a reasonable expectation for adding another 64mb to the onboard 32mb since performance probably won't increase linearly.
Gomez Addams
Valken
~AngusHades~
tunejunky
JamesSneed
JamesSneed
tunejunky
tunejunky
FWIW,
these new EPYC procs are powering all new IBM Cloud baremetal servers.
MegaFalloutFan
user1
https://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=17195 [/SPOILER]
Its important to keep in mind that how the cache effects performance depends on the architecture itself, zen3 is designed with the l3 as a victim cache, and presumably with 3d cache in mind. the l4 cache on the broadwell chips is also a victim cache, but it isn't quite the same , its not that fast ,only about 50gb/s when used for the cpu and latency isn't that great either, alot faster than ddr3 , but still much much slower than the l3 cache.
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