AMD Athlon X4 880K Specs Appear Online

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#5155644
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dammit amd, lower the tpd already
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dammit amd, lower the tpd already
I'm afraid that's pretty hard without an entirely new architecture. Besides, Zen is coming. If I were AMD I'd pull most of my CPU divisions' resources into it. Which they are already doing probably, considering the lack of releases.
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A 14nm 4core Zen APU with 8gig HBM for both gpu and cpu needs, with gpu performance close to a 680 or something with adaptive sync support, please? Now that would be excellent. And make the whole PC a small vesa mountable item that you stick to the back of your monitor.
Eeh that's harder to do. HBM will give you the bandwidth but you still need a solid GPU beside that CPU. Honestly I can't be swayed one way or the other when it comes to iGPUs. I mean even if they could do that, it would go against the modular concept behind a desktop PC. But on the other hand it's simpler.
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I'm afraid that's pretty hard without an entirely new architecture. Besides, Zen is coming. If I were AMD I'd pull most of my CPU divisions' resources into it. Which they are already doing probably, considering the lack of releases.
How is it harder to do? When the A10 series which has BOTH CPU + iGPU on the die and yet it still has a 95W TDP? So these Athlon chips only have the CPU portion and yet they still have a 95W TDP? To me that makes no sense? The clocks are basically the same too, everything is the same so why can't they lower the TDP? EDIT: In fact the stock clocks on the highest A10 is 4.1GHz a full 100MHz more than the Althon 880K and the A10 will also probably have a higher boost clock too. Yet the TDP is the same?
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How is it harder to do? When the A10 series which has BOTH CPU + iGPU on the die and yet it still has a 95W TDP? So these Athlon chips only have the CPU portion and yet they still have a 95W TDP? To me that makes no sense? The clocks are basically the same too, everything is the same so why can't they lower the TDP? EDIT: In fact the stock clocks on the highest A10 is 4.1GHz a full 100MHz more than the Althon 880K and the A10 will also probably have a higher boost clock too. Yet the TDP is the same?
We do not know the turbo clock. It could boost higher. Besides, afaik the TDP is done in 'steps'. They could have a step for 80W and 95W, if the processor has a design of 81W they cannot market it as an 80W processor, but can market it as a 95W.
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dammit amd, lower the tpd already
They did. It's called Carizzo. It won't be released for desktops though. So there's that.
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I'm afraid that's pretty hard without an entirely new architecture. Besides, Zen is coming. If I were AMD I'd pull most of my CPU divisions' resources into it. Which they are already doing probably, considering the lack of releases.
Might not be as bad as we think it is. It wouldn't surprise me if these Athlon chips are actually just A10s with faulty GPUs that were laser cut or whatever. In other words, I don't think they really spent much time and money engineering this. It was probably just a project for a few days. I've noticed both AMD and Intel are extremely lazy when it comes to measuring TDP. For example: the i7 6700K (4GHz, 8 logical threads) is 91W, but the i5 6600K (3.5GHz, 4 logical threads) is also rated at 91W. There is no way they're both 91W, and I don't think this Athlon is anywhere close to 95W either. But anyway, I agree that AMD needs to put more resources into Zen. The annoying thing is I'm sure the vast majority of the design is already complete but they have to make sure it's stable. We don't want another Phenom X4 situation.
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Eeh that's harder to do. HBM will give you the bandwidth but you still need a solid GPU beside that CPU. Honestly I can't be swayed one way or the other when it comes to iGPUs. I mean even if they could do that, it would go against the modular concept behind a desktop PC. But on the other hand it's simpler.
depend on the use as always, i like powerfull big PC for my main, but i have a NUC for in car PC, a flat cute slim itx based HTPC under the TV set... AMD doesn't shine too much with graphic card but the APU line is really great for the use it have been made for. it's hard to said something against them.
A 14nm 4core Zen APU with 8gig HBM for both gpu and cpu needs, with gpu performance close to a 680 or something with adaptive sync support, please?
you mean of HBM2 then 🙂 as HBM is 4 gig at max...
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The tdp really isn't that bad just means it won't be throttling like gpu enabled counterpart my 5800k throttles like crazy on the cpu side even undervolted/clocked.
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The tdp really isn't that bad just means it won't be throttling like gpu enabled counterpart my 5800k throttles like crazy on the cpu side even undervolted/clocked.
Glad to see it's not just me. I've had to cut the frequency in half just to get the damn thing from freezing up from overheating. And yes, I know how to seat a cooler (default AMD one) and I even applied MX paste; still sh!t.
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So when overclocked these will perform on par with a stock clocked base model i5 from 4 years ago with 50% more power usage...but it will be 'better value' because it's compatible with a motherboard that supports DDR2 and PCI 16 1.0 or something like that? *Packs away soothsayer stones and chicken bones*
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Glad to see it's not just me. I've had to cut the frequency in half just to get the damn thing from freezing up from overheating. And yes, I know how to seat a cooler (default AMD one) and I even applied MX paste; still sh!t.
have you tried WC there is closed loop kit that are very fine for that and that are not expensive.
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I think AMD's APU's still do not get enough credit OR people still don't get the concept behind it. I run a mini-ITX with an A8 APU in it, coupled to some beefy 2133Mhz DDR memory, attached to my 46inch TV and surround sound system and I can play titles from 2-3 years old in full detail from the comfort of my own couch while getting epic sound effects through the living room. With some overlocking it can even pull some recent titles in full detail too (1920x1080, no AA of course).
#5156230
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I think AMD's APU's still do not get enough credit OR people still don't get the concept behind it. I run a mini-ITX with an A8 APU in it, coupled to some beefy 2133Mhz DDR memory, attached to my 46inch TV and surround sound system and I can play titles from 2-3 years old in full detail from the comfort of my own couch while getting epic sound effects through the living room. With some overlocking it can even pull some recent titles in full detail too (1920x1080, no AA of course).
This. The CPU side is good enough to run decent GPUs for higher end work, too. Whack an R9 Nano in with it and you're set.
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These apu's really don't get the credit they deserve but they need to die shrink badly or open the tdp limit so they don't throttle like crazy, even with a 240mm aio it throttles.