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Update: Netflix 4K streaming on a Windows 10 PC Tested with GPUs
Last week we mentioned in a news-item that only the new and upcoming Kaby Lake processors would be able to handly Netflix in Ultra HD on a Windows PC in combination with Microsoft’s Edge browser. This has now been tested with graphics cards.
German website Heise tested a number of hardware configurations in relation to 4K streaming, as it turns out modern graphics cards such as the GeForce GTX 1000 series and Radeon RX 400 series can’t display Netflix’s 4K content. Streaming 4K content is limited to Microsoft’s Edge browser solely, it is rediculous that it cannot even be watched with the official Windows 10 Netflix app (word however is that Netflix is working on this APP wise).
Netflix only switched to the 4K resolution when an Intel CPU of the 7th generation (Kaby Lake) is available. Now it is not something the graphics cards couldn't handle, but it's more a PlayReady 3.0 copy protection thing as the GPU or driver needs to support PlayReady 3.0 SL3000 and HDCP 2.2 copy protections.
Heise sums it is very simple, ” it’s astonishing that modern AMD-Polaris and Nvidia-Pascal graphics cards are not supported, although they support HDMI 2.0b and HDCP 2.2″. We think support will be added in the not so far future, AMD previously told Heise that Polaris should get PlayReady 3.0 support through a driver update.
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#5363650 Posted on: 11/28/2016 11:26 AM
And the content/Production companies wonder why so many people copy from Streaming websites and torrent sites.
I tried Amazon and Netflix, and couldn't last more than a day.
Unfortunately, having only a 2Mbit line, i'm only allowed just under VHS quality, which looks extremely sh*t.
I am waiting for one of the dense b'stards that make up the distribution comapnies, to realise that a popcorntime type app, would not only alleviate all their bandwidth issues, but allow the people they want to sell to, to actually consume what they want.!
I don't exactly live in the sticks, its just not well served, by any provider. 5Km+ of copper.
Our tiny holiday village in Crete (which is much more remote than home here) has 12Mbit to the home, ffs. 6x what I have in outskirts of Paris.
So, back on topic : Netflix and Amazon are following the usual model, where all consumers are evil, especially those that pay for the right to be shafted.
"All pirating must be evil, look, we are allowing you to watch our content, with only a few restrictions : Country, language, quality, hardware,....nothing too difficult or resrictive mind you".
And the content/Production companies wonder why so many people copy from Streaming websites and torrent sites.
I tried Amazon and Netflix, and couldn't last more than a day.
Unfortunately, having only a 2Mbit line, i'm only allowed just under VHS quality, which looks extremely sh*t.
I am waiting for one of the dense b'stards that make up the distribution comapnies, to realise that a popcorntime type app, would not only alleviate all their bandwidth issues, but allow the people they want to sell to, to actually consume what they want.!
I don't exactly live in the sticks, its just not well served, by any provider. 5Km+ of copper.
Our tiny holiday village in Crete (which is much more remote than home here) has 12Mbit to the home, ffs. 6x what I have in outskirts of Paris.
So, back on topic : Netflix and Amazon are following the usual model, where all consumers are evil, especially those that pay for the right to be shafted.
"All pirating must be evil, look, we are allowing you to watch our content, with only a few restrictions : Country, language, quality, hardware,....nothing too difficult or resrictive mind you".
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#5363665 Posted on: 11/28/2016 12:24 PM
Cheap Wintel stunt, pushing Win10 Kaby Lake
Cheap Wintel stunt, pushing Win10 Kaby Lake
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#5363673 Posted on: 11/28/2016 01:12 PM
The ways to stream Netflix currently:
Web browser.
Built-in TV app.
Roku. (AppleTV, etc)
Tablet/phone.
Nearly ALL new 4k sets already have built in Netflix/app functionality. (find me one that doesn't)
So yeah, I can see why people whine about this. We're clearly getting screwed over.
The ways to stream Netflix currently:
Web browser.
Built-in TV app.
Roku. (AppleTV, etc)
Tablet/phone.
Nearly ALL new 4k sets already have built in Netflix/app functionality. (find me one that doesn't)
So yeah, I can see why people whine about this. We're clearly getting screwed over.
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#5363676 Posted on: 11/28/2016 01:32 PM
hehe almost reminds me of how I can't even play Sin City 2 in normal HD because my 10 year old 1080p TV doesn't support the latest HDCP
hehe almost reminds me of how I can't even play Sin City 2 in normal HD because my 10 year old 1080p TV doesn't support the latest HDCP
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#5363688 Posted on: 11/28/2016 02:32 PM
It is amazing that the only way to have real HD movies with lossless audio is to buy the Blu-ray or piracy... If you want to stream content, you're stuck with a cheap 5Gb worth of streaming that isn't even enough for video, let alone audio. Modern streaming is basically a glorified dvd quality content with nasty dolby digital 5.1@335Kb or 650Kb... 6 discreet channels sharing such low bandwidth... The video may be 720p or 1080p but resolution is not everything, for example, Blu-ray quality (not 4k bluray) is much nicer than 4k streaming...
It is amazing that the only way to have real HD movies with lossless audio is to buy the Blu-ray or piracy... If you want to stream content, you're stuck with a cheap 5Gb worth of streaming that isn't even enough for video, let alone audio. Modern streaming is basically a glorified dvd quality content with nasty dolby digital 5.1@335Kb or 650Kb... 6 discreet channels sharing such low bandwidth... The video may be 720p or 1080p but resolution is not everything, for example, Blu-ray quality (not 4k bluray) is much nicer than 4k streaming...
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#5363691 Posted on: 11/28/2016 02:39 PM
That Gilmore Girls though.
That Gilmore Girls though.
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#5363694 Posted on: 11/28/2016 02:44 PM
they say Nvidia and Amd cards not support 4k netflix streaming... Wrong! Netflix not support Nvidia and Amd cards (intentionally)... Just do not use netflix.
they say Nvidia and Amd cards not support 4k netflix streaming... Wrong! Netflix not support Nvidia and Amd cards (intentionally)... Just do not use netflix.
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#5363701 Posted on: 11/28/2016 03:02 PM
The ways to stream Netflix currently:
Web browser.
Built-in TV app.
Roku. (AppleTV, etc)
Tablet/phone.
Nearly ALL new 4k sets already have built in Netflix/app functionality. (find me one that doesn't)
So yeah, I can see why people whine about this. We're clearly getting screwed over.
Did you read the article ?
The ways to stream Netflix currently:
Web browser.
Built-in TV app.
Roku. (AppleTV, etc)
Tablet/phone.
Nearly ALL new 4k sets already have built in Netflix/app functionality. (find me one that doesn't)
So yeah, I can see why people whine about this. We're clearly getting screwed over.
Did you read the article ?
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#5363729 Posted on: 11/28/2016 03:55 PM
I have just signed up to Sky TV I am getting a free lg 43in 4k TV looks like I will have a new monitor for games and netflix
I have just signed up to Sky TV I am getting a free lg 43in 4k TV looks like I will have a new monitor for games and netflix
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#5363734 Posted on: 11/28/2016 04:13 PM
And people wonder why I don't have Netflix... I don't have a 4k thing at all, but this is just more stupid and poorly designed ideas.
And people wonder why I don't have Netflix... I don't have a 4k thing at all, but this is just more stupid and poorly designed ideas.
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#5363758 Posted on: 11/28/2016 05:21 PM
This is nothing more than a publicity stunt for both Intel and Microsoft. The Edge browser fine but cpus give me a break. If the Xbox One S can stream Netflix 4K then all this copy cpu crud was nothing but fodder. Like I stated in an earlier thread, if it was true than Microsoft created an entry in the Vault of Fail thread because the Xbox One S would not have been able to do what they advertised.
This is nothing more than a publicity stunt for both Intel and Microsoft. The Edge browser fine but cpus give me a break. If the Xbox One S can stream Netflix 4K then all this copy cpu crud was nothing but fodder. Like I stated in an earlier thread, if it was true than Microsoft created an entry in the Vault of Fail thread because the Xbox One S would not have been able to do what they advertised.
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#5363808 Posted on: 11/28/2016 06:50 PM
Unless you illegally torrent, Netflix is the only way to get some of the best shows on TV right now. This is why they have invested billions of dollars into new programming. The solution for being unhappy with one aspect of a service should not always be to stop using that service.
However the amount of people using PCs with a 4K TV to watch Netflix is pretty small. I really don't see this being a big deal to most people so I doubt Netflix will change their stance.
they say Nvidia and Amd cards not support 4k netflix streaming... Wrong! Netflix not support Nvidia and Amd cards (intentionally)... Just do not use netflix.
Unless you illegally torrent, Netflix is the only way to get some of the best shows on TV right now. This is why they have invested billions of dollars into new programming. The solution for being unhappy with one aspect of a service should not always be to stop using that service.
However the amount of people using PCs with a 4K TV to watch Netflix is pretty small. I really don't see this being a big deal to most people so I doubt Netflix will change their stance.
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#5363809 Posted on: 11/28/2016 06:51 PM
And the content/Production companies wonder why so many people copy from Streaming websites and torrent sites.
I tried Amazon and Netflix, and couldn't last more than a day.
Unfortunately, having only a 2Mbit line, i'm only allowed just under VHS quality, which looks extremely sh*t.
I am waiting for one of the dense b'stards that make up the distribution comapnies, to realise that a popcorntime type app, would not only alleviate all their bandwidth issues, but allow the people they want to sell to, to actually consume what they want.!
I don't exactly live in the sticks, its just not well served, by any provider. 5Km+ of copper.
Our tiny holiday village in Crete (which is much more remote than home here) has 12Mbit to the home, ffs. 6x what I have in outskirts of Paris.
So, back on topic : Netflix and Amazon are following the usual model, where all consumers are evil, especially those that pay for the right to be shafted.
"All pirating must be evil, look, we are allowing you to watch our content, with only a few restrictions : Country, language, quality, hardware,....nothing too difficult or resrictive mind you".
That's an issue with your government. You can't expect proper streaming at 2Mbit, and no studio would ever license anything if the providers like Amazon or Netflix allowed local storage.
And the content/Production companies wonder why so many people copy from Streaming websites and torrent sites.
I tried Amazon and Netflix, and couldn't last more than a day.
Unfortunately, having only a 2Mbit line, i'm only allowed just under VHS quality, which looks extremely sh*t.
I am waiting for one of the dense b'stards that make up the distribution comapnies, to realise that a popcorntime type app, would not only alleviate all their bandwidth issues, but allow the people they want to sell to, to actually consume what they want.!
I don't exactly live in the sticks, its just not well served, by any provider. 5Km+ of copper.
Our tiny holiday village in Crete (which is much more remote than home here) has 12Mbit to the home, ffs. 6x what I have in outskirts of Paris.
So, back on topic : Netflix and Amazon are following the usual model, where all consumers are evil, especially those that pay for the right to be shafted.
"All pirating must be evil, look, we are allowing you to watch our content, with only a few restrictions : Country, language, quality, hardware,....nothing too difficult or resrictive mind you".
That's an issue with your government. You can't expect proper streaming at 2Mbit, and no studio would ever license anything if the providers like Amazon or Netflix allowed local storage.
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#5363824 Posted on: 11/28/2016 07:24 PM
Yup.
That Gilmore Girls though.
Yup.
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If (and that's a big if) it has anything to do with the protection technology, it's another case of creating pointless software that only gets in the way for everyone - most of all the regular user/consumer.
If someone wants to copy and distribute something, they will succeed in doing so.
Easy, it's only "protected" if it's made useless - for example: the end user can't see it.
Possible to record the screen and outgoing audio in many ways.
At least the guys coming up with these kind of things get experience and a salary, but that's the only upside I can see to this.